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Re: Pittsburgh Ballet Dumps Live Music

Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-03 18:13

"In other words, to some extent, one can overcome a lack of natural ability with exceptional effort."

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Yes and no. The player is still limited by their own "god given talent" no matter how hard they work. And if the player with more talent works just as hard, they will usually achieve higher levels of results.

I know 3 Doctoral Clarinetists who aren't even playing the Clarinet much anymore. One plays in a community orchestra, one teaches at a kids music center, and the other one is pretty much of a housewife. None of the 3 ever got a "real" job. A Doctoral Degree is a Mammoth undertaking of several years of really hard work - but it won't get you an Orchestral gig.

Name Clarinet players with Doctorates playing in full time Orchestras and you won't come out with that many at all.

Most got the gig with a Masters at most and often with just their Undergrad degree.

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