Woodwind.OrgThe Ethnic ClarinetThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 Pronunciation Help
Author: Mike 
Date:   2000-12-07 18:55

In the "Welcome" post, I saw the following terms: doina, freylekh,krekhtsn, dreydlekh, Chassidic. Howzabout helping out with the pronunciation? I can guess, but I'd rather not.

msj

Reply To Message
 
 RE: Pronunciation Help
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2000-12-07 20:18

Well, I'm no Yiddish maven:), but here goes:

Doina, the "oi" is prounounced as in "join" or oily"

Freylekh, the "kh" has a sound similar to the German "ch", as in "ach" (back of the tongue scrapes the roof of the mouth), so pronounce as "fray - lach"

Dreydlekh, pronounce as "dray'd - lach"

Chassidic, prounounce as "chass - id - ic", with the accent on the "id"

The accents in the other words are on the first syllable.

I believe a doina is a long wailing solo. A freylekh is a happy dance tune. I don't know what a dreydlekh is, but to "drey" is to fool around and a dreydl (dray - dle) is a spinning top. Chassids are a group (actually several groups) of Orthodox religious Jews who are not only deeply religiously observant, but adhere to dress and customs of 17th century Eastern Europe from whence they originate (although they have modern appliances, cars, medicine, etc). Many klezmer tunes originated from Chassidic prayer melodies.

Hope this helps.

Reply To Message
 
 RE: Pronunciation Help
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2000-12-08 03:03

Oh, I left out krekhtsn: Pronounce using the rules above. Means "to cry". These are the laugh - cry sounds emitted by the clarinet or sax. I once did it accidentally, have not been able to duplicate it since.

Reply To Message
 
 More on krekhtsn
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2000-12-08 03:07

Well, maybe not "to cry". More like to croak. Or have indigestion.

Reply To Message
 
 RE: More on krekhtsn
Author: Mike 
Date:   2000-12-08 13:36

Thanks so much, Steve.
I have very little exposure to Klezmer music, but it is quite seductive. I was finally hooked last year about this time when National Public Radio broadcast a program of people's spoken memories of Chanukkah's past. Interleaved between stories was the most beautiful soulful music. The clarinetist and the music were, alas, uncredited.

My teacher, in addition to her vast classical performance experience, plays Klezmer music now and then (the usual - "weddings and bar mitzvahs"). I finally pried a copy of "Mayn shtetl Yas" out our her well-guarded stash of music. Of course, I'm lousy at playing it, but, hey, you gotta start somewhere.

Reply To Message
 
 dreydelekh
Author: peter jaques 
Date:   2001-01-15 03:53

"dreydlekh" is the plural of "dreydl". a doina could be described as a "long wailing solo", but more specifically, it is an unmetered improvisation, usually over chord changes. the timing of the changes is determined by the soloist in the moment. it often comes before a piece in rhythm, usually in the same key, but sometimes you'll have a doina by itself.

a good source for general klezmer knowledge is the book "The Compleat Klezmer", by Henry Sapoznik, published by Tara Publications. starts with a description of various klez tune types, basic modes & styling, then has a nice selection of "standard" tunes. you can also get it with a recording with old recordings of all the tunes, which is really useful.

peter

Reply To Message
 
 RE: dreydelekh
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2001-03-18 00:39

Steve, dreydlekh, or dreydl, in this case literally means "turn". This is similar to a turn in Irish fiddle music. It is a bit different than a normal trill in classical music, as it usually consists of a few different notes. If it were to be written out on paper, this ornament would probably be best written as a cluster of grace notes. -- Nate Zeien

Reply To Message
 
 RE: dreydelekh
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2001-03-18 06:16

Hmm, I'm not disagreeing with you, Nate, but I always thought a dreydlakh was form of dance tune, not an ornament. I stand (or spin -) corrected, if you are sure about this.

Reply To Message
 
 RE: dreydelekh
Author: Lorele 
Date:   2001-03-21 19:58

For more about Dreydlekh, check the archives of jewishmusic@shamash.org. It is an ornament.

Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org