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 Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Aaron Diestel 
Date:   2000-11-05 18:56

I am wondering about clarinet vibrato, and it's speed that is authentic to to the klezmer style, if there is such a thing. I have two differing styles of vibrato on 2 differing CDs. I'll use the song Firn di Mekhutonim Ahyem. On my recording of the KCB(Klezmer Conservatory Band) Thirteenth Anniversary Album, Ilene Stahl is the clarinetist. She has a quick, tight vibrato which causes almost a shimmer effect. Ona differing CD, The Art of the Klezmer Clarinet, with Margot Leveret. Her vibrato is a wide, open, slow vibrato. My question is, which style would be more ture to the Klezmer style, if there is such a style of vibrato? My only other CD of klezmer music is a compilation of vintage KLezmer recordings from 1905 to 1952. Here the vibrato styles are somewhat difering, but when vibrto is used for the clarinet and other insturments, with the exception of the piano(for certain obvious reasons) it is a quick tight compact shimmer. I can drw from these vintage recordings that maybe the tighter vibrato is a more authentic interpratation. I don't have a close realtion to Klezmer music. I have only been listening for a few years having discovered it only by chance in a music store. I don't have much much expousure, and time playing. I experiment in the practice room on my off days for fun, but I have none to play with, mainly because noone else here even knows what Klezmer is, not even some of the professors, except ones of Jewish decent.
I'll be happy with any remarks or reply's that I can get. Also any good recording that anyone can reccomend. Thanks for any info.
Aaron

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: bob gardner 
Date:   2000-11-05 23:05

try bug music by don byson
also don byson play the music of michael katz.

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-11-05 23:50

I think that vibrato definitely has its place in klezmer. The manner in which vibrato is used depends on the piece, and varies with each arist's style and preference. The older style does appear to be a tight shimmer effect for the most part. During slower pieces more open vibrato in generally used. Vibrato is often slightly more subtle in klezmer than it is in jazz. I would experiment with different styles, and see which you like best. It must be remembered that everyone's style is different. In my opinion it all depends on the mood of the piece (and the player too!). Overall, I would use tighter vibrato more the more upbeat pieces and slower, more expressive vibratto for the slower ones. This would be sticking with the traditional playing best in my opinion. -- Nate Zeien

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Stuart 
Date:   2000-11-10 18:54

Hi Aaron!
and hi everybody!
i'm thrilled to find a klezmer forum!

have you heard Naftule? he's my favorite.
i think his last name is spelled Brandwein, but
that's probably not right, knowing my spelling.

i also really enjoyed "Songs of our Fathers",
by Andy Statman, he's a living guy.
Also from New York is David Krakauer who
also tears it up - but less traditional sounding,
i guess.

let us know what you find!
-stuart

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Nate Zeien 
Date:   2000-11-10 21:19

Stuart, Naftule Brandwein is my favorite too! :-) -- Nate Zeien

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: charles 
Date:   2001-02-08 03:26

How do you produce a vibrato? With the lips or the diaphram? How did sidney bechet produce his vibrato?

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2001-03-08 16:55

I've heard lots of differing opinions on how to produce vibrato. If you use your lips it has a different sound from using your diaphram. The diaphram is supposed to be better because you can control it. The Klezmer "slides" on notes, etc. is pretty much a mouth thing--and I find that it depends upon what I'm doing in each piece as to whether or not I use mouth or diaphram vibrato. Experiment and listen to other players and decide what works.

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 RE: Klezmer Vibrato
Author: Daniel 
Date:   2001-03-27 04:27

Bob, his name is Don Byron, not Byson (just incase you didn't catch the typo.:-)

Daniel

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