 The Ethnic Clarinet
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2009-10-23 00:21
What are the differences between Albert and Oehler fingering systems? Is it hard to switch between the two?
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2009-10-25 22:01
They are very similar, except that the German Oehler system can have many more rings and keys and other "doodads" added (like rings on every finger hole and extra little finger keys etc.).
Here's the German firm's, Karl Hammerschmidt, site with their more "German" style set up:
http://karl-hammerschmidt-klarinetten.de/b_a_klarinetten.htm
And from the same site, in their G klarinets, on the left a couple of klarinets closer to the standard Albert-looking setup, and on the right the more Oehler/German looking setup.
http://karl-hammerschmidt-klarinetten.de/g_klarinetten.htm
It's probably a bit more complicated than this, but there are some sites on the internet that go into greater detail. I personally play the Albert/Simple system with no upper rings and prefer the fewer keys and rings style.
I hope this helped.
John
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: aki0426rc
Date: 2010-08-29 23:31
I recently aquired this Wurlitzer clarinet, is this Albert system?
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4669/screenshot20100826at124.png
I am confused because I thought Wurlitzers were German and thought at first it is Oehler... but this only has 4 rings...
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2010-08-30 23:38
I saw you post on the other board also, and I made a short comment. The German Oehler system can have 6 rings and all sorts of extra keys and connections, but basically it is like the older "simple system" and "Albert system." To be honest, I've forgotten all the little differences which make the name of each system different (there are several different names for each of the little variants). The bottom line is that the picture you showed is what most of us call the "Albert system." I am a Greek clarinetist, so my viewpoint may be different from that of a classical musician.
The one in the photo is the most popular set up. It has 2 rings on the upper joint as well as the lower. It has the patent C# set up (we Greeks call it "diplo do" or "double C") which is the two cups on the bottom right hand side. This is the form that many of the jazz players in New Orleans jazz used. Thereare some web sites on this by the way.
http://webspace.webring.com/people/bs/silverleafjb/clarinet2.htm
http://usuarios.multimania.es/albertsystem
I prefer the "Albert" without the upper rings and without the "patent C#" (we call it "mono do" or single C). I also don't like the extra bottom trill key on the upperjoint. There are all kinds of extras that a person can have. My first Buffet C had 3 rings on the upper joint, an extra left hand pinky key, and an articulation/connection between the upper rings and the octave key (which goes up the back instead of being a wrap around key). So that clarinet was closer to the Oehler system). In fact, later in the jazz age, many of the Albert players moved over to these clarinets with more rings and keys, especially favoring the Selmer "Alberts."
I'm sorry if I've gone on too long, but suffice it to say that the clarinet looks like a good one, BUT, be sure that it is Bb low pitch and not Bb high pitch which would make it closer to a B natural instrument and thus not good for playing in modern groups with Bb low pitch instruments.
Good luck.
John
www.greekfolkmusicanddance.com
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
Post Edited (2010-08-30 23:43)
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