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 Gypsy / Turkish music approach
Author: JT 
Date:   2005-10-21 23:34

Hi all,

As an Albert system clarinettist, I predominantly play Greek music by ear and have been doing so for numerous years. Lately, I have been trying to change my style to that of Turkish / Gypsy sound which I find sounds much sweeter.

Thus, as an ear trained clarinettist, I want to learn the scales behind the music so as that I can improvise much more freely and find the relationships between the different scales and where the quarter notes are employed. For example, I know that Hijazz has some relationship with the Sabah scale only because I have heard others make this change in their solos. Are there any tips on how to approach this methodically and if so, how?

Lastly, I am in Sydney, Australia and am searching for a Turkish / Arabic clarinettist that can teach this to me.


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 Re: Gypsy / Turkish music approach
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2005-10-22 05:54

Sorry JT, I have no other assistance to give you other than to join the mailing list at the EEFC (East European Folklife Center) and to ask the question there. Their website is: and there should be a link to join the listserv. There are a few makam experts there who may be able to help.


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 Re: Gypsy / Turkish music approach
Author: dp 
Date:   2005-10-26 12:49

Jim, good luck!
Most Greek klarintzides who learned and developed by ear suggest one should try to study music "properly".... you get the drift.
A search with topic "maqam" or "makam" should cring out lots of interesting sites. You would find interesting
Good luck

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 Re: Gypsy / Turkish music approach
Author: vintschevski 
Date:   2005-11-05 12:28

Hi, JT!
There is a multi-instrumentalist in Sydney by the name of Yuri Halay who played on the CD "Keklik Aile" with Linda Marr and Elias Ellis (and some guests). On that particular recording he played clarinet, baglama, murli, kaval, domra and oud, and there are plenty of both Greek and Turkish pieces. He is actually of Russian descent and earlier in his career was involved with various Russian groups and early music ensembles, but latterly he's been more active in Middle Eastern circles and has played with Compania Azziz, Drum Arabic and Nakisa.
It is possible that somebody like Yuri might be able to help you more than a musician who has played only in the one tradition. Be that as it may, he would be able to recommend somebody for you, I'm sure. Elias Ellis, by the way, studied with a Turkish music teacher called Sabahattin.
The CD suggests that you can contact the band at Sorry, I have no idea whether that email address is still valid, but I imagine that Yuri Halay would be easy to track down in other ways.
Hope this might help a little!!

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