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 stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Mark 
Date:   2002-07-19 15:46


[Author was originally listed as Mark C. but to avoid confusion I edited it to Mark. To the "real" Mark C. of this posting - please find a different pen name ;^)

Mark Charette (aka Mark C.)]

i'd like to study this piece over the summer, but i don't have a teacher over the summmer.

any suggestions? it's so confusing!

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: ChattyClar 
Date:   2002-07-19 16:44

Mark,

I just played it for my jury last semester. It's a wild piece! I tried learning it on my own, too, and I ended up doing more harm than good. Each week I would go into my lesson with my teacher and spend half the time fixing things that I had learned incorrectly. Stravinksy is very detailed and tells you exactly what he wants. Once you get passed the mechanics of the piece (articulations are a nightmare), then you have to find the feel and the 3rd movement swings. If you're bent on learning it over the summer without supervision, at least get a good recording. Karen Dornbaush has one out that covers all the basics--if you can get past her crappy sound ;) I believe Karl Leister does, too, (much darker sound) but his anchor tonguing doesn't help when you're trying to hear the articulations. Take it SLOW!!! If you're unsure about a rhythm, work it out. Pay attention to every articulation. It's a pain in the ass, but it saves you so much frustration later. Perhaps you can study it with a teacher down the road and learn the feel of it. You have my thoughts and prayers ;)

Mike~

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: LaLa 
Date:   2002-07-19 21:01

I personally LOVE Guy Deplus's Recording! but i have no idea what label it is under

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Miles 
Date:   2002-07-20 00:12

If you would like to hear a really good recording of this piece you can get: "Blues For Sabine" This CD has Sabine Meyer & Eddie Danniels playing together. But on one cut Sabine Meyer is playing the Three Pieces. It is EMI Classics. It is really great. Sabine Meyer plays terrific!!!!

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Doug R 
Date:   2002-07-20 01:24

Run, do not walk, to Sherman Friedland's Corner, elsewhere on this website--he has a meticulously detailed movement-by-movement "how-to" on the Stravinsky, written with his usual warmth, wisdom, expressiveness & care. It's wonderfully illuminating even if you're NOT working on the pieces, but if you are, it's a godsend.

Have fun!
Doug R

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2002-07-20 13:01

I don't know, I kind of like Karen Dornbaush's sound, but then again my musical taste is somewhat questionable, New York Counterpoint is one of my favorite clarinet pieces.

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Chris Ondaatje 
Date:   2002-07-20 14:00

Karl Leister's "anchor tonguing"??? this is heresy!
I think you need a few performances before you start to do these pieces justice.

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: rmk 
Date:   2002-07-20 15:11

It's my understanding that anchor tonguing is actually taught in Germany and Austria. I know Alfred Prinz (formerly in Vienna) anchor tongues. To watch him it looks terrible (chin moving with every tongue stroke), but it sounds great, which I suppose is all that matters.

I think it may have something to do with the increased resistance of the German set-up vis-a-vis the French.

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 RE: stravinsky 3 pieces...without a teacher!!
Author: Miklos Brabec 
Date:   2002-07-22 13:31

I had a copy on vinyl of the Desplus recording from the 60s with Domaine Musicale, and yes it was awe inspiring..for newer one I would certainly reccommend Alain Damiens -- he has a fat sound! I also heard the clarinet player Pascal Moragues do this in recital in Paris in 89 and was floored...lovely veletly sounds and an incredibly dark chalumeau. Why doesn't anyone out there check out his records? >>MB

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