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Author: BGBG
Date: 2016-09-14 02:10
I am having an awful time trying to count out a C4 quarter note, followed by F4 quarter note linked with curved line to another F4 quarter note with a dot, followed by a Bb4 eighth note to end the 4/4 measure. I play it and it seems right, I count it the way I think correct to say it, but I just cannot seem to count while playing and get confused. I need someone simply to tell me the counting words like one and two and....etc.
Always have not been sure how to count out various combinations of tied with curved line quarter and eighth dotted and non-dotted notes. I can get a feel for it but confused when try to count it out.
It would help a lot with the harder ones if someone would just tell me how to say this combination. It seems simple but just cannot seem to get it. Thanks.
I want to add that I downloaded this sheet music Bobby Goldsboro "Autumn of my Life" from http://pianosheetmusiconline.com/autumn-of-my-life-bobby-goldsboro/ I think, a rather difficult site to navigate due to the ads. I was unable to find it just now but it was a rather crude looking 4 staff single page with 5 verses of lyrics and it looked like a home-made music sheet someone had made instead of the more professional sheets I have downloaded, free and paid for.. Didnt look like a company's sheet. And I doubted the correctness of some of the notes which were not quite on the staff lines. But I wanted to try to play it, it was free, so I tried it. At first I tried to rewrite it but decided to play it as written.
Post Edited (2016-09-14 02:36)
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-09-14 03:13
You have the vocabulary you need to play this accurately:
You count the entire measure 1-and-two-and-three-and-four-and |.
As you count that, you play C4 on 1
Play F4 on 2
Play F4 on 3 but don't separate it (you can, for practice's sake do an articulation, planning to take the articulation out later)
Play F4 on 4 (still no separation unless you want to for practice's sake to make it easier)
Play Bb4 on and (after 4).
So it's
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
C F F F Bb
The important point is to keep those subdivisions (the eighth notes) steady.
The other important point is that whatever comes next probably is played on 1 of the next bar. The beats and subdivisions need to continue across the bar line into the next measure.
Karl
Karl
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2016-09-14 03:29
Thanks. I write it, add it up, it seems correct, but then I count and get 3 or 3-1/2 beats yet it totals 4 beats. I will try as you say. Something I am not understanding. Determined to get it.
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-09-14 03:42
No matter what happens, don't play the Bb until the "and" of 4. It seems like a trivial distinction, but it makes a difference: don't think about the length of each individual note (especially don't add the values of the tied ones up), think about when to play the next note. Just hold the F until you play Bb on the and of 4. Even without understanding about the dotted quarter or the quarter tied to it, you can see that *mathematically* the last eighth note must be the last "and" of the measure. Count the 4 beats and subdivisions in your mind's ear and play Bb on "and" after 4. Nothing else really matters - until afterward.
Karl
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-09-14 03:45
I was afraid the illustration wouldn't line up. HTML doesn't respect white space. C should be under 1. F should be under 2. F should be under 3. F should under 4. Bb should be under "and" after 4.
Karl
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2016-09-14 05:31
Another trick is to articulate (tongue) it all, particularly the quarter and eighth combination denoted by the dotted quarter. Or even articulate all the beats and "ands" described by Karl. The separation makes the note values more obvious. Once you feel good about that version, put back in the full note values and slurs.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2016-09-15 03:30
I'm getting it. Helps to have other opinions so I know what to do. I have a bad habit of not trying anything difficult or else rewriting it the way I want it to sound and be easy to play. Now I think that approach is bad and I want to try more things that ARE maybe difficult. Might learn something or develop some ability.
Prior to this I just rewrote it using single eighth, quarter, and dotted half notes that I understood better. But I want to be able to play it as written.
Post Edited (2016-09-15 06:45)
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