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Author: Clarinetero
Date: 2012-04-09 04:18
Well I have tried a few boxes. These reeds are like Vandoren V-12, but better. They don't get a brilliant sound after a few times using it.
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Author: Clarimeister
Date: 2012-04-09 09:19
I'm interested to hear more if anyone else has tried them. Anyone know where to get them in US that doesn't charge a million bucks for shipping?
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Author: jimk
Date: 2012-04-09 11:20
I discovered them when I ordered reeds and cork grease from doctorsprod.com and received a mix of GDs and FOFs. He said the FOFs were being phased out and his restocking orders for FOFs were being filled with a mix of GDs and FOFs.
My impression has been the GDs aren't quite as responsive as the FOFs.
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Author: musica
Date: 2012-04-10 01:16
Why would they phase out the FOF's when they have had such success with that
design?
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2012-04-10 23:36
Hello all, I am Pablo Gonzalez President of Argendonax S.A. manufacturer of Gonzalez reeds,
Our FOF model continued making like until now, is no plan to remove them from the market.
the two models to coexist each one for a different sound.
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: andrewcsq
Date: 2012-04-11 00:00
What's the difference between the new GD cut and the old FOF cut? (Not just in terms of spec, ie thicker blank, but supposed effect on tone, target audience etc.)
Are they of equivalent strength? The chart posted on the Gonzalez website has omitted the new GD cut, and is only available for the RC and FOF cuts.
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Author: Alexis
Date: 2012-04-11 11:08
http://www.gonzalezreeds.com/english/products/clarinet-gd-Bb.html#http://www.gonzalezreeds.com/images/products/gd-bb-clarinet.jpg
Apparently they are a jazz model.
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Author: andrewcsq
Date: 2012-04-11 12:45
Err I think that the Local 627 cut is actually for Saxophone reeds? (I use these Local 627 reeds on Alto Sax and they really are quite consistently wonderful)
The description that is specific to the GD cut of reeds is:
"GD reeds are made from a cane with a classic French Cut. they are made with a thicker blank and a larger diameter material than the standard clarinet reeds. This material are normally used in the manufacture of Alto saxophone reeds. This give a much deeper sound. They are the first Gonzalez reeds with a Filed Cut.
The reed has a longer scraping area and more wood in the heel, therefore is a more vibrant and lasting reed."
Which tells me that it's a thick blank reed, probably some Morre style cut (is that what it's called?), so something SIMILAR to the FOF style, but I hate to make generalisations (especially given that the FOF cut already exists, it wouldn't make sense to make another cut of reed with the same tonal profile)
Edit to make it clearer that I use the Local 627 reeds on Alto Sax, not clarinet.
Post Edited (2012-04-11 12:46)
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-11 19:24
The difference may be in the "filed cut," (also called "French cut" or "double cut") which will have a noticeable effect on the sound and response for those of us who like that style.
Karl
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Author: oca
Date: 2012-04-11 23:01
Does anyone know where to learn about different cuts of reeds?
Gonzolaz says this on their website
"The reed has a longer scraping area and more wood in the heel, therefore is a more vibrant and lasting reed."
More wood does make the a reed "more vibrant".
"Here take this take this twenty pound weight, it will make you run faster"
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-12 01:05
oca wrote:
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> More wood does make the a reed "more vibrant".
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> "Here take this take this twenty pound weight, it will make you
> run faster"
Well, it doesn't really work that way. The longer the reed vamp is, the more easily the reed tends to vibrate (all else held equal).
I'm not sure why more wood in the heel would make the reed either more vibrant or longer lasting, but it is the result of the whole blank being thicker, which does affect the sound (just as it does for other thick blank reeds like Morre, Rue Le Pic, etc.).
Karl
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-12 01:07
I'd actually like to know who is selling these. I checked at my 3 favorite online outlets and none had them (or at least they didn't list them).
Karl
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Author: web4pro
Date: 2012-04-12 12:26
I used them sinds several months and i really appreciate them. Like all my reeds, i play them, in the first days (a week) only ten minutes each. I play a S&S + M30 mouthpiece. You should try it.
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-12 13:07
Who is selling these? I don't see them on any of my usual outlets' websites.
Karl
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Author: web4pro
Date: 2012-04-12 13:37
I bought it through Facebook. You can contact him lebrungreeds@gmail.com
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-12 15:40
web4pro wrote:
> I bought it through Facebook. You can contact him
> lebrungreeds@gmail.com
Who is "him?"
Karl
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2012-04-12 16:09
Hi all again.. these are some of the differences between the FOF and the GD
Blank Thickness FOF: 3.18 mm.
Blank Thickness GD: 3.20 mm.
Heel width FOF: 10.40 mm.
Heel widht GD: 11.40 mm.
FOF is unfiled
GD has filed cut
Tip thicknees: FOF: 0.095 – 0.100 mm.
Tip thicknees: GD: 0.100 – 0.110 mm.
The vamp in the two reeds are totally different: the FOF reeds were thought following the line of the old Olivieris and the GD were made based on the old Morres.
4 out of 10 professional clarinetists love the FOF model
7 out of 10 professional clarinetists love the GD model
This could be because the GD model suits better to the current mouthpices.
Regard Juan Pablo Gonzalez
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: web4pro
Date: 2012-04-12 21:22
web4pro wrote:
>> I bought it through Facebook. You can contact him
>> >ebrungreeds@gmail.com
>Who is "him?"
This a contact from facebook. Very professional, easy going and customer minded. Never had a problem with him.
The reeds are outstanding. I did not like the "regular serie" but this one is very good.
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Author: musica
Date: 2012-04-13 09:42
So there is the Mozart reed that is still selling at Muncy winds , this was said
to be like the Moree cut . Could someone compare the two?
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Author: donald
Date: 2012-04-14 07:11
I'm really looking forward to trying the GD reeds- the FOF don't quite suit me though i can find some good qualities in them... the one time that another clarinet player came up to me and said "hey i loved your tone, what mouthpiece/reed do you use?" (after my performance at Clarinetfest 2003) I had been using one of the Mozart reeds, which i also liked but somehow always ended up with the wrong strength...
dn
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Author: hrvanbeek
Date: 2012-04-21 13:23
FYI - I just found the Gonzalez GD reeds for sale on the Weiner Music website.
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2012-04-21 13:58
Apparently, they just got them on Friday morning, although they were showing them in their online catalog earlier in the week.
Karl
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Author: Clarimeister
Date: 2012-04-22 07:19
Excellent! I had spoken with a salesperson at Muncy that they were waiting for them to be for sale soon as well. Hopefully they start arriving in the States really soon. I only have a couple samples of the correct strength, and I'm waiting for a box that I ordered from Lebrung reeds (imported). So far they play pretty nicely.
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Author: andrewcsq
Date: 2012-04-22 09:38
Can anyone give a short review that describes the tone of the reeds, response etc.
Hopefully in comparison with some other reed brands, so there's a general picture? (ie, "darker" than V12, "less responsive" than.... a Vandoren Traditional? Whatever those terms might mean to the individual reviewer, of course)
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2012-04-22 16:43
Clarimeister, how do the Gonzalez GD strengths compare to other reeds (such as Gonzalez FOF, Vandoren V12, Rico Reserve Classics, etc.)
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Author: Clarimeister
Date: 2012-04-22 17:43
With the box of 3,1/2 that I got they were too soft. I use V12 3,1/2+. They run pretty much exactly the same as Vandoren V12s, because the two samples of 3,3/4 that I got were the perfect strength for me. The FOF's in my experience are about a 1/4 strength harder than V12s. So a 3,1/4 FOF = 3,1/2 of V12.
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Author: saxlatina
Date: 2012-05-10 16:46
I agree, the FOF are a quarter harder than the GD´s ... but the GD strengths are the same as Vandoren V12
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2012-05-15 22:17
Hi! it´s me again trying to clarify some doubts.
The new GD reeds, don´t look at all like any previous models that Gonzalez has released, Zonda or Mozart.
While we have said that the concept of some of our models was the old MORRE canes, within that style were the Vic Olivieri and the Morre. We always follow the Olivieri´s, and the new GD reeds are more focused on the Morre´s.
Is an entirely new scraping, a completely different blank taken from tube cane of larger diameter where the fibers are further apart, this property confers higher vibration to the reed.
The scale of strengths has been designed so that, those musicians who use other brands, quickly find their strength since the equivalence is pretty straightforward, so you should try the same strength that is used in another brand.
It is clear that any cane, no matter how good is its design, will make happy 100% of the musicians, but taking into account the results we are getting, we are confident that a large percentage of clarinetists, will soon turn to the GD.
Juan Pablo González Argendonax S.A. President
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: web4pro
Date: 2012-05-15 22:20
I play the Gonzales GD reed for several months (Mouthpiece M30 Vandoren, Schwenk & Seggelke M1000+ clarinet) and i am very happy. Previously, I was playing Vandoren V12 but almost every reed of my box can be played on a high quality level. Nice sound, good response, long lasting, ... i don't want to play anything else for the moment ... i was not very happy with the "regular line' of Gonzales ...
Post Edited (2012-05-15 22:23)
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Author: web4pro
Date: 2012-05-16 08:04
Hello I use Number 3 but I think they changed the numbering recently. At the beginning i was playing 3 1/4 ... But the new boxes I get and I use are number 3. As usual, i always play every new reed 10 minutes a day for the first week.
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Author: Bobby McClellan
Date: 2012-05-24 02:23
I love the Gonzales on Bb and on Bass, just wish there was a contra version. I absolutely hate the Options that are available for the Contra Bass.
It was nice to see the owner of the company chime in and help clarify questions.
Bobby M. McClellan
Flowood, MS
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Author: andrewcsq
Date: 2012-05-24 02:56
Just thought I'd share my experience with some recently received GD cut reeds from Gonzalez.
As usual, the consistency is excellent. A quick blow through with a few of the reeds in the box showed that the response, tone and strength showed little variance across different reeds in the same box. This amazing consistency accounts for my having almost entirely switched over to Gonzalez reeds.
With regards to strength, I found that the 3,5 strength GD reeds were roughly equivalent (if just slightly softer) than the 3,5 strength VD Rue Lepic reeds I had on hand to compare with.
The tone was nice, thick and dark, just the way I personally like it, and response was pretty good as well.
Opinions formed based on the setup below:
BG B2 Mouthpiece
Rovner MkIII lig
Leblanc Cadenza (discontinued)
MoBa Barrel
Not very good clarinet chops ><
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2012-07-31 11:08
We will attend the Clarinet Fest 2012 in Nebraska, if you want to try our new Model GD and Classic, we will be glad to receive you at our booth!!
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: icandified
Date: 2012-10-14 08:40
I have yet to try the GD reeds however, can someone tell me the difference between Gonzalez GD and Vandoren-V12 and rue lepic 56. It is my third year playing the clarinet however, the school provides reeds so the students use them but we have not much knowledge about the reeds. Please enlighten me. Thank You.
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-23 13:29
After our participation in the clarinet fest 2012 in Assisi Italy and having heard the comments of the best clarinetists in the world, I must say that the new GD Gonzalez reeds are the best option as today.
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: Ed
Date: 2013-10-23 14:35
Well, there you have it, an unbiased opinion.
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-23 14:53
;)
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-25 16:20
We want all clarinetists test GD, only we can not send samples to all, but the first 10 to write us we send them: pablo@gonzalezreeds.com
best regards to all the forum
Juan Pablo González
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: ABerry
Date: 2013-10-25 19:44
Pablo,
Earlier in this thread, you gave a comparison between your new GD and the FOF reeds. Could you give the same comparison between the GD and the Mozart reeds?
I currently use your 4.5 Mozart reeds.
I have tried the 4.0 GD reeds and while they have a full and rich sound, with a very nice response, I find the Mozart reeds have a fuller, richer and darker sound.
Allan
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-26 00:42
Dear Alan, have you ever tried our model FOF 4.5 ???, the FOF is more similar to the Mozart reeds.
Anyway I will make a comparison between these two models and will put here.
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: ABerry
Date: 2013-10-26 18:55
Hi Pablo,
Yes, I have tried the FOF 4.5 reeds as well as the 4.25, 4.00. Also Zonda, 4.00, 4.25, 4.50 O,P,Q, and Zonda Classico 4.50. All of these reeds have a very nice sound, but in my opinion, the Mozart reeds are better in every respect.
I have also used Vandoren V12 #5, 56 Rue Lepic #5, Vandoren Standard cut (the older standard cut from the 1970's & 1980's), A.W. Reeds 302 4.0+.
Allan
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-31 15:22
Dear Allan, the history of the Mozart reeds was a bit strange, it was a design that was disapproved by Zonda brand owner (Verne Q Powell Flutes) who considered one model too specific, the original template unfortunately no longer exists, the closest thing is the current GD, but remain in Argentina in the hands of a seller called Alejandro Gonzalez, (but that has nothing to do with the Gonzalez family) a number of these original Mozart box at a very great price: www.gonzalezvientos.com.ar
I'm friends with him and I can help you if you are interested
best regards
Juan Pablo González
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2013-10-31 15:46
I got my free box of GD reeds in the mail a couple of days ago and will start breaking in a couple of them today. I also have a new box of FOF and will do likewise. Will re-post in a few days once they're broken in and I've been able to play them for lengths of time.
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Author: pablogonzalez480
Date: 2013-10-31 16:10
Dear Roxann we hope your comments soon and good luck with the new GD.
best regards
Juan Pablo González
I am the Argendonax S.A. \"Gonzalez reeds\" President my telephone number is: +54 261 4454864
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Author: Carl S.
Date: 2014-07-25 21:19
Used to use 56 Rue Lepic, switched to GD last year. They are the best, I won't use anything else. I play Klezmer music on a Patricola C clarinet with a Bay H1 mouthpiece and a Bay Quintessence ligature. The reed is 2 3/4 strength.
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