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 vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Joseph Brenner, Jr. 
Date:   2010-07-10 21:45

From today's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/11/opinion/11woodiel.html

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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2010-07-10 22:37

Following the logic of the article, one may never get to hear some of the most phenomonal American music ever composed.

Both propositions are hard choices indeed, but I vote (not that it matters) to hear and see Bernstein however we can get it.


THE SHOW MUST GO ON !!!!!




...................Paul Aviles



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Plonk 
Date:   2010-07-11 05:48

Vaguely related:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=126714434005270&ref=ts (The death of regional pit orchestras? PLEASE READ AND JOIN!)

(PS how do I make a hyperlink? I tried [ url ] link [ /url ] (without spaces) but it doesn't work...)



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Franklin Liao 
Date:   2010-07-11 06:32

Well, in an age where we can feed *.midi to a piano and have it replicate the entire score with flawless accuracy and precision, pianists still slave and tickle the ivories.

Think of the extreme situation. If the clarinet will fade into history in the wake of say Electronic Wind Instruments if not something else, there will be the token survivors like how the brass players see the Ophicleidists that can be counted in number by our digits...

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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: bmcgar 2017
Date:   2010-07-11 09:05

Ultimately, it might come to the point where we will play only for the love of it instead of for prestige or money.

More people might even keep playing after high school, no longer ashamed that they don't meet the standards of the "professionals"--and we'll hear more diversity and new ideas!

(See Ed Palanker's article about cookie-cutter musicians: the "Star Search" syndrome of sameness applied to the pro "serious music" world.)

Sad, huh.

B. (Who also thinks that art museums are a sin.)



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2010-07-11 10:58

Plonk,

Put a < before the link and a > after with no spaces. You will not see the < or > in the post though.

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=329740&t=329703


HRL



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: William 
Date:   2010-07-11 16:21

"Ultimately, it might come to the point where we will play only for the love of it instead of for prestige or money"

I've been doing *that* all my life. Any prestige or money has just been an added bonus. I made a career (as a music educator) and a "living" by teaching others to love music, not just do it for the money or global recognition. The above statement is not a revoluntionary new concept.......

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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: Plonk 
Date:   2010-07-11 19:57

Doesn't seem to work either? (I altered my post, but it just shows the <> signs...)



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-07-11 20:56

Tried it with your link, doesn't work. Maybe this site doesn't like Facebook, or some of the characters in the link.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2010-07-11 21:09

The site won't activate links that contain the # character, for some reason. I think either Mark or GBK has made mention of this in the past.

Jeff

“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010

"A drummer is a musician's best friend."


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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: GBK 
Date:   2010-07-11 21:59

JJAlbrecht wrote:

> The site won't activate links that contain the # character, for
> some reason. I think either Mark or GBK has made mention of
> this in the past.
>
> Jeff


This link should work:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126714434005270&ref=ts

...GBK



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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2010-07-11 22:08

Does the Met do this? Could/would they do the major operas with half the normal strings and a synth piping in half the sound? Is the Met so much more financially secure than the major Broadway theaters? If so, why? Not a rhetorical question - I'd really like to know.

Karl

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 Re: vanishing chairs in the pit
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-07-11 23:15

The Met has donors, patrons, benefactors. Heck, they're spending millions reinforcing the stage to accommodate the hefty sets for an upcoming Ring Cycle production.

I think Broadway has to try to make ends meet. When your expenditures are tied to income from ticket sales, you have to think about these things.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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