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Author: z123carleigh
Date: 2006-07-21 05:30
Okay, first question. The clarinet books I'm using currently are Kroepsch's 416 Studies Book IV and Rose's 40 Studies. Are there any other books that you would consider absolutly vital to have? I like to have a wide variety of practice material, but I'm on a budget so I can only afford a few more.
Second question: I need a new clarinet. The one I am currently using is a perfectly decent student Leblanc. However, I would definatly like to upgrade to a wooden clarinet. I would like a professional model, but I'm seriously doubting that is going to be with my price range, even used. I'm a high school student, so my moneymaking capabilities are kind of limited. I'd like to find one in time for the new school year, but I'm only going to have about $500 by the end of summer. Does anyone have any suggestions? And where do you find used clarinets? The only places I can think of are the classified sections in the newspaper, and pawn shops, and the one's in my area are pretty chintzy and have only had the yuckiest of student clarinets so far.
Thank you for reading, any help would be appreciated!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-07-21 05:54
z123carleigh wrote:
> Okay, first question. The clarinet books I'm using currently
> are Kroepsch's 416 Studies Book IV and Rose's 40 Studies. Are
> there any other books that you would consider absolutly vital
> to have? I like to have a wide variety of practice material,
> but I'm on a budget so I can only afford a few more
The short list:
Klose - Celebrated Method (complete)
Rose - 32 Etudes
Baermann III
Rose/Rode - 20 Grandes Etudes
Kroepsch - 416 Progressive Daily Studies - Book 1 (#1- #167)
Cavallini - Thirty Caprices
Stark - Arpeggios
Arban's Complete Conservatory Method for Trumpet
The long list:
Rose 40
Rose 32
Rose-Rode 20 Grand Studies
Stark Arpeggios
Baermann IV
Baermann V
Cavallini 30 Caprices
Stark 24 Studies
Jeanjean 18 Etudes
Jeanjean 16 Etudes Moderne
Stark 24 Grand Virtuoso Studies (two books)
Capelle 20 Grandes Etudes (two books)
Perier 20 Etudes de Virtuosite
Perier 22 Etudes Modernes
Perier 30 Etudes d'Apres Bach, Paganini
Jeanjean Etudes Progressives et Melodiques (three books)
...GBK
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-07-21 06:12
As for your subject about getting a pro used clarinet, I would wait until you can save up at least $1000 for a used pro model. I don't think you can find very many used pro models for $500 unless you are a fantastic bargain hunter. Maybe others will be able to help you more with that issue.
But in GBK's list, I would say the Rose 32, Klose Celebrated Method, and the Baermann 3 are the biggies that you'll want to get. They are just huge standards in the clarinet world. Probably every clarinetist/most of the them own those 3 books. Those will set you on the basics and have you coming for more for the rest of your clarinet life!
Good luck!
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Author: z123carleigh
Date: 2006-07-21 06:59
eep. Just those three are going to cost me more than a week's paycheck....oh well, anything clarinet is worth it.
I can understand what you're saying about at least a $1000 dollars though. A used R13 is going for $1300 in the last ad I saw. I did see an ad for a F. Barbier at $350 , which I've heard can be pretty good. I passed it over because I was totally broke at that point in time. Looking back I probably should have at least gone and taken a look at it, although that would have been terribly impractical, as it was in Maryland or DC, can't remember, and I'm not driving an hour and a half. I don't necesarily need a professional instrument, just a decent one that'll hold me over until college, or until I actually have a proper job, which ever comes first.
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Author: Tony Beck
Date: 2006-07-21 12:32
The DC area is a great place to look for used professional instruments. If you go off brand (i.e., not an R-13) you should be able to find a good to excellent instrument in your price range. I’d suggest a Leblanc Symphonie or Classic, Couesnon Monopole or Buffet preR-13 professional model (not an Evette). If you want to get a step up instrument and change back from your $500, look for a Malerne or Winnenden, Germany Kohlert. These fall in the range of high end intermediates to starter professional models.
There are at least two techs in your area that are on this BB and sell excellent reconditioned instruments. Do a search of the archives and you’ll find a lot of good information on instruments, buying used instruments and sources.
The less you have to spend, the more homework you need to do to make a good purchase. The good news is that you can get a much better instrument for what you have to spend. You just have to find it!
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Author: Bennett ★2017
Date: 2006-07-21 16:15
Many of the recommended titles come up on Ebay from time to time. You can put a standing search for them and will be notified by email if they are up for auction. Also, you might check used-book stores that have music sections.
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Author: beejay
Date: 2006-07-24 22:17
I would suggest that you don't need all these books at the same time. For example, I don't see the point of studying Klose and Baermann simultaneously. In your situation, I would have thought it better to buy the books as you need them and are ready for them.
By the way, nobody mentioned the Lefevre method which builds up to some ravishing studies, in my opinion.
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Author: Band Dad
Date: 2006-07-25 12:54
My daughter wanted the same thing you want. So we picked up a nice used Normandy 4 (Wood) and had it repadded also picked up an nice used Buffet E11. Both of these horns are doing there job and will get her through high school and she kept her resonite for marching.
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-07-25 13:28
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I've found that the LeBlanc Rapsodie is an absolutely FANTASTIC clarinet for not a whole lot of money, and if you're looking for a wood horn but can't afford a pro model, it's definitely my #1 recommendation. I own one, and I use it in a great number of gigs (mostly of the pit variety) where I'm not entirely comfortable taking my rosewood Opus. I use a Backun barrel on it, and the difference between it and any of my pro-level horns is negligible...it's also a BEAUTIFULLY made instrument. Mine has gorgeous unstained wood, and the keys are thickly silver-plated. (see attached photo for a pic of the bell grain next to the rosewood and another grenadilla clarinet).
Check eBay...they pop up once in a while at great prices.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-07-25 17:29
I assume your current horn is plastic. You would "like to" upgrade to wood but can't go over $500. Sounds like you don't "need" a better horn but just want one. I suggest you think a bit longer. Every wood clarinet carries the chance of cracking and if you blow your $500 and the horn cracks then you're up the creek. Get your current horn repadded and checked over and keep saving your money until you can afford something that IS better.
Bob Draznik
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-07-25 17:40
Wood clarinets can crack, although the chance of a used wood clarinet cracking is probably less than a brand new wood clarinet.
Although a minor crack will lower the eventual resale value of the clarinet, a properly pinned crack should not have an effect on the overall sound...GBK
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