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Author: Super Mario
Date: 2006-07-17 02:26
hello again everyone. im an entering senior in high school, and i had a few questions for those of you who have had expierences in this area.
i would like to become a music teacher or a music therapist. just thought id get that out of the way
obviously, ohio state is a wonderful college for music, and it is something it is renowned for. it would be very exciting to go there, and i know I would get an amazing education. but 50,000 students is a little excessive, plus i live by columbus so im looking to 'get out'
the college-conservatory at the university of cincinnati is amazing from what i have uncovered. they have a lovely double-major in education and performance. f course, it will be very hard to get in because of the competitiveness. a little bit of an urban campus for my taste, but lovely all the same
ohio university is just an amazing campus. it has a music therapy program, which i am quite interested in, and is the only one in the state. i think it would be the perfect job for for many reasons. though, i dont know a whole lot about the music school at ohio. i loved it there though. from information on their website, their clarinet professor sounds like she is pretty amazing as well. but, what do i know im just a high school student
sorry that was so long, i had alot i felt like i hadta say.
peace and love
We are the music, while the music lasts.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-07-17 03:00
I do not speak for myself, but from people I know who study there, or have auditioned/visited CCM, I have heard of good experiences, and high ratings on the "like factor".
Also, Richard Hawley is an adjunct professor there, and he's one of the highly regarded clarinetists in the nation.
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Author: William Hughes ★2017
Date: 2006-07-17 13:45
The University of Dayton has a fine music program, including Music Therapy. Bowling Green State Univesity is also well respected in music education.
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Author: Bigno16
Date: 2006-07-17 18:45
Another option is Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Michelle Gingras is the clarinet professor there.
Steven Reineke (popular wind band composer) went there and told me that it was not where he originally wanted to go and planned on transfering to Eastman, but ended up liking the school and beautiful campus so much that he stayed and enjoyed it very much.
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Author: Super Mario
Date: 2006-07-17 20:17
thank you everyone for your help.. though i am still torn between ccm and ou.
hm, i guess ill make another trip to both, apply and audition to both, and see from there.
peace
We are the music, while the music lasts.
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Author: Megan
Date: 2006-07-18 02:32
Take lessons from different teachers to get a better idea of where you would better fit. Audition several different places to have more options.
CCM is a good school, but competitive to get into.
I second Michelle Gingras and Miami U of O.
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Author: libera_clarinet
Date: 2006-07-18 04:10
I auditioned at CCM for the MM program, and I believe that Richie Hawley has taken over as the professor of clarinet. I think...
I really liked the school at CCM, but, as others have said, it is quite competitive to get into.
I third(?) Michelle Gingras and U Miami - Ohio. My undergrad professors spoke quite highly of her.
Good choices as far as I can tell - Good luck!!
-- Matt
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Author: Anon
Date: 2006-07-18 16:10
I attended CCM for my Artist Diploma degree. Richie is a fabulous teacher and the rest of the department is very solid as well. It is very geared toward grad students and I have actually told my high school students who are going to college to go somewhere else first, then come back. As I said, I think very highly of the school and of Richie but I'd like my students to get some good playing time and I don't know that they'd get it at CCM as undergrads.
Just my 2 cents.
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Author: nokia234
Date: 2006-07-18 23:47
I have attended CCM for undergrad and honestly, you would be stupid if you didn't even apply. Who cares about the competition? Learning comes first and as an undergrad it could not get any better. The clarinet faculty is one of the finest group of people I have ever met and worked with. Richie, Ixi, Ron, and Carmine, are such great resources, mentors, and friends, that not getting to work with any of them would be a huge loss. The opportunities at CCM are endless. Just like anything in life whatever you put in is what you will get out.
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Author: lowclarinetman
Date: 2006-07-18 23:50
I attended Oberlin Conservatory from '95-99 and I loved it. I have never studied under Richard Hawking but have heard wonderful things about him. The music education program is top rate as is the college.The atmosphere is a bit different than you might be used to, so i recommend going first to see if it is somewhere you might be interested in. Downside, in the middle of nowhere.
hope this helps
bob
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-18 23:55
lowclarinetman wrote:
>I have never studied under Richard Hawking but have heard
> wonderful things about him.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Hawkins 
Richard is a fine teacher; my son studied 3 years with him at Interlochen.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2006-07-19 02:37
Hi Everyone,
Let me put a few different spins on this discussion. Campus life is a very important part of your education event. What are the dorms like, is the library extensive and accessible, and above all, what's the city that the instiution is located in like (restaurnants, shopping, and off-campus housing for later). A
Also, what are the performing groups/ensembles, how many, and what level of performance is expected. While it's great to become the best clarinet player you can, working in a group is also a key piece of your musical development.
Also, what's the tuition? An in-state public university is the bargain I always looked for; I was never dissappointed. No point in breaking the bank any more than necessary.
HRL
Post Edited (2006-07-19 11:06)
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Author: clarinetfreak
Date: 2006-07-19 03:46
I believe Dan Gilbert teaches at Case Western university in Cleveland. He also teaches at SUNY-Stony Brook but that's in Long Island. Great teacher, exelent performer, and nice person to work with.
Good Times!
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-07-19 04:06
Gilbert's availability at StonyBrook might be a bit limited, since he has to balance the Cleveland Orchestra concerts. I was accepted into his studio earlier this year for undergrad at StonyBrook, but was told that I would only have lessons with him every other week. The rest of the time I would be working with a graduate assistant.
And a note on StonyBrook in general - it's a school I would reccomend highly. Being a state school, it's pretty cheap especially if you live in New York State. The music department is small - appx 80 undergrads and 200 grads - but full of top tier faculty, which includes the Emerson Quartet as ensemble-residence. In addition, it happens to be possibly the best research school in the north east, so that's a great aspect if anybody's entertaining thoughts of double-majoring. Long Island is an up-scale area, and Stony might be a tad bit too rural, but it does have the big-school experience. New York City is about an hour's ride west on the LIRR.
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Author: Anon
Date: 2006-07-19 15:37
Perhaps I should have clarified that the students I suggested go somewhere other than CCM first were students who most likely would not have received a lot of playing time as an undergrad because they weren't to that level yet. I felt if they went somewhere else first, they could come to CCM for grad work and *really* benefit from it then.
If I had a student who I thought could be competitive there and not feel way overwhelmed, I obviously would encourage it.
Hank mentioned campus life and scholarships: CCM is an urban campus, no doubt about it. Also, most grad students are getting full-rides (or close to it) which is very attractive. I don't know what the undergrad scholarship situation is.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2006-07-19 16:07
Anon,
Usually undergrad scholarships in my academic field (public administration/aviation) go to an upperclassman that is working on a research grant with a faculty member. I do not know about music but my street sense says that scholarships might be hard to come by. Grad students as TAs and RAs usually have many more opportunities in all fields.
There is always a needs-based pot of money but...
HRL
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