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Author: akronclarinet
Date: 2004-11-08 16:31
Hey everyone, so I'm playing this piece "Prelude" by Krzysztof Penderecki its a cool piece, has a little of everything fun like glissing, flutter tonguing, and mulitphonics. I can do everything except the multiphonics, I can't figure out a good fingering for it.
I know the principle and I've done it before on other pieces, so its not a question of how. Its just this combo of notes I can't figure out. Can anyone help me with a good fingering?
I need to play a low C (C4) and then simultaneously get a D flat (Db5) a little more than an octave above that to come out.
This happens twice in the piece, and I'd really really like to be able to put it in. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2004-11-09 21:55
I am on the road and do not have my copy of this book with me, but check it out as it may have what you are looking for:
Phillip Rehfeldt
New Directions for Clarinet
rev. ed. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1993.
This is available from one of the Sponsors at:
http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinet.htm
Tom Piercy
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-11-09 22:48
Do you mean the notes in brackets?
I have never heard them performed as multiphonics...more like the echo passages found in the Abime in the 4tet for the end of time...
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Author: akronclarinet
Date: 2004-11-10 06:46
The first time this occurs the quarter note C is in parenthesis directly under the quarter note Db.
The second time, there is a quarter note C (not in parenthesis) and above that is an eighth rest followed by an eight note Db.
I asked my teacher about it the first time I saw it and she told me it was the notation for multiphonics. I assumed so as well because I had played multiphonics before in Harvey's "Three Etudes on Themes of Gershwin" and the notation in the little explanation page looks similar, a note on top of another.
I dont quite understand what you mean by an echo passage. What would I do in this case? Granted, there is no meter marking, (or bar lines for that mater) for the piece, does this mean I have liberty with time in that situation?
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Author: Rick Williams
Date: 2004-11-10 10:33
I went through Rehfeldt's book and unless I'm just missing something there is no multiphonic fingering for C4/Db5 listed. There is a fingering for C4/Db6
Rick
Best
Rick
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Author: akronclarinet
Date: 2004-11-12 05:24
hmmm.... I heard rumors that the composer was actually going to be in my area (at Baldwin Wallace) soon (if not already) perhaps I can go directly to the source? ![[cool]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/cool.gif)
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Author: Markus Wenninger
Date: 2004-11-12 11:09
In my opinion Penderecki isn´t into using multiphonics, but still that doesen´t prove too much. Anway, it may be an advantageous and creative way to interpret his composition, so the idea seems great to me. As far as the intonation of the multiphonics written is concerned - Harry Sparnay once said to me that "I was lugging around this heap of multiphonics-lists, but having played a lot of them since, I have let´s say 3 dozens ready that sound very good and are flexible as far as attack, dynamic range and complexity is concerned, and if the composer is lazy coming up with the fingering demanded, I just use one of my own, and most often they´re delighted about it." - I would do just like he does, he´s an immaculate bassclarinet-player for certain.
Markus
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-11-12 14:48
Check out:
Bruno Bartolozzi's "New Sounds for Woodwinds" book.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-11-12 21:52
Making a quickie lig search [above], I found a Rovner patent , US,5,998,715, entitled Multi Toned ---, which might be of interest. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: mnorswor
Date: 2004-11-12 22:38
There are no multiphonics in this piece. Check out Sharon Kam's recording on Teldec with Penderecki supervising. She plays no multiphonics, that's good enough for me.
Michael
P.S. I've played it several times and have never played them either.
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