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 wd-40 the keys?
Author: clarinator 
Date:   2002-11-17 23:35

Hey...I jsut wd-40ed the posts on my Bb. is that bad? I noticed a buch of drips aandwonder if this will hurt the wood. The actoin is a bunch smoother now, but man am I worried. What do you think?

clarinator

PS I love the smell of wd-40..Is it harmful to smell? I'm wondering if its okaay to oil the bore with it? Thanks.

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2002-11-17 23:50

Um . . . I'm not too sure on the affect of the wood, but I do urge you to refrain from actively smelling it. That could lead to an increase in brain damage and a decrease in sight-reading skills. Trust me in that respect . . . .

Alexi

PS - As I recall, WD-40 ungunks stuff so I think it'd be bad to get on your pads or cork. Don't know about the wood though.

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Mark P. Jasuta 
Date:   2002-11-18 00:29

WD-40 is OK on a temporary fix, but it will dry out and the stiffness will return. Removing the key and cleaning all the old oil residue from the key and the pivot screws is best for the long term. Then re-oil with a good quality oil.
Mark

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2002-11-18 01:17

WD40 is a proprietry brand of penetrating oil in a spray form. It is not advisable to spray it near any musical instrument. It will destroy pads both skin and leather and will probably penetrate the wood where the posts go in and may loosen them. Repairers use penetrating oil in liquid form and use only the bare minimum for freeing stuck screws, removing rust and pulling out pin springs. It will probably not damage the wood itself but rather work its way through. The smell of WD40 and any other penetrating oil is a methylating agent designed to stop people drinking or sniffing the product as in methylated spirits. The way you are going you are going to run up a considerable repair bill and end up with brain damage!

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: super20dan 
Date:   2002-11-18 01:55

wd,40 doesnt ruin leather pads.the great sax repair guru emilio lyons recommends using it to treat sticking pads on saxes

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2002-11-18 02:29

I wonder if clarinator is just baiting people for responses fo his entertainment, especially after all the recent discussion on possible dammage to timber by petroleum products.

Am I right in thinking that WD40 evaporates quickly to leave no residue? In that case, why apply it? To try to soften the gooey 'varnish' left behind when inappropriate lubricant evaporates?
In that case, the mechanism needs a good clean and lubrication with a SUITABLE oil!

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Terry Horlick 
Date:   2002-11-18 03:19

WD-40 is a mix of petroleum distillates. WD stands for water-displacing. Evidently it is the 40th try at a product... don't know for sure. It is essentially desiel oil. It isn't much as a lubricant, but is meant as a penetrating product for busting things loose when they are rusted and crudded up.

It really has little place on a clarinet, probably only good if you have a hinge on your case which is sticky. The aerosol variant will go everywhere, the liquid product is easier to control.

The suggestion above to remove the key and clean the dirt off and then oil it is good. Black stuff on keys is really metal fragments worn off the key and mixed with dirt and old oil. This slurry is abrasive and can do no good for the clarinet. If you clean it off and then oil the keys lightly, the clarinet keys will wear slower. If you just dump WD-40 onto a dirty key pivot it puts the abrasive slurry back into solution so it can get back into the key joint and cause more damage.

I guess that if you have the liquid despenser bottle for the WD-40 it would be good for using as a cleaner on the steels (pivot screws) and keys when dissasembled to help remove the black crud... but you don't want to put it onto the wood. There are other solvents available to do the job better.

I suggest running a search on L. Omar Henderson, Ph.D. on this site to see what he suggests is safe for clarinet wood.

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-11-18 03:22

Terry Horlick wrote:
>
> It is essentially desiel oil.

Wrongo in that respect. But I personally wouldn't be spraying it around my clarinet.

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Willie 
Date:   2002-11-18 03:22

WD-40 DOES leave a residue. I used to spray the chromed parts on my Brittish motorcycle collection with this stuff to help protect them from the Gulf coast rust that cosumes everything here. After a while, I had a layer of sticky varnish that was hard to get off. I just wipe the chrome parts with straight motor oil now.

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-11-18 03:23

BTW - we've already had a <b>very</b> long discussion about WD-40 with the facts behind that particular product. Why not try searching for a change?

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 RE: wd-40 the keys?
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2002-11-18 13:48

NO - Dont use WD 40 on clarinets, WOOD or plastic, except CAREFULLY to help remove rusted-in pivot screws/rods. The comments by our 3+ Marks, Gordon, Terry and Willie all stress the reasons for limiting its use as a penetrating solvent, very well. Also DONT SNIFF. Don

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