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Author: Iván
Date: 2002-03-28 01:00
I'm making a work about the clarinet music from gay composer (Saint-Saëns, Ravel, Poulenc, Horovitz, Tchaikovsky, Bernstein and Erick Satie). I have a question, the follow music have clarinet in the score?:
Satie: Le pičge de Méduse, for actors and 8 instruments
Ravel: Three poems by Stéphane Mallarmé, for voice and 9 instruments.
Poulenc: songs cycle "Chansons villageoises" for voice and instrumental ensamble.
Poulenc: Sinfonietta.
If you can help me in my research, thanks.
Iv'
PD If you can say me about others gay composer, thanks, too.
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Author: Eoin
Date: 2002-03-28 08:17
I can't imagine why it should matter to the music whether they were gay or not, any more than what colour hair they had!
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-03-28 13:42
Well, as far as I'm concerned, any new topic that can divert our attention from the endless trivia about Mozart's Clarinet Concerto (snore!) is worth discussing.......
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-03-28 17:16
Eoin, your comment about composer's hair color may well be the inspiration for someone's Doctoral dissertation.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-28 20:13
It mattered and probably matters for any number of reasons: state of mind, societal influences, etc.
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Author: Iván
Date: 2002-03-28 20:37
Ok, I only ask about some works for 8 and 9 instruments, jejeje But is intersting see your comments. Thanks for the page of gay entertainment, I don't knew Samuel Barber was gay, and other composers. Thanks.
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2002-03-29 04:04
You might find a copy of Joan Peyser's biography of Bernstein. She makes much of his sexuality and the personal/ musical interactions he may have had with his contemporaries.
The prelevance of (male) homosexuality in the arts (seemingly well in excess of the usually accepted 10% in the general population)is generally accepted as true, but I've never seen (published) any convincing reason for it. Of course, the causitive factors of sexual preference are not conclusively known either. There is still a search for a genetic link as well as other factors.
Sadly, the AIDS epidemic took a great number of talented musicians (as well as many others.) I stoped counting friends I lost to AIDS when the number passed 10. Most of these were musicians (singers, only 1 was an instrumentalist.) (As I'm not gay, most of the gay men I know are known through my musical activities.)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-29 16:29
Roman Eller wrote:
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> George Frideric Handel was gay also, if this helps.
The evidence on this is really, really slim. Possibly, but far from proven.
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Author: ivan
Date: 2002-03-29 20:43
Corigliano, one of the very best actual composer (and composer of one of the very ver best contemporany concertos) dedicated a very many of his music for his friends who death by aids.
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-03-29 20:52
There are several clarinet works by the gay British composer Sir Peter Maxwell Davis. His extensive website www.maxopus.com is worth a visit
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Author: ?!
Date: 2002-03-30 08:10
Who cares if they were gay, music is music
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Author: =(^^)=
Date: 2002-03-30 12:51
?!,
Eggsactly, if i like it. I will play it. what difference does it make
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-03-30 15:20
You have to have SOME small basis for research!! I'm sure Ivan is not biased against straight composers!
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Author: Iván
Date: 2002-03-30 22:16
I haver very much works for clarinet by gay composers. In the social and gay world (is a wrong word for me), it's very important. To me is important, how clarinetist, because the major works for clarinet (except mozart) was written by gay composers.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-30 22:21
Iván wrote:
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> because the
> major works for clarinet (except mozart) was written by gay
> composers.
Some of the major works. Brahms certainly is one of the major composers ...
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Author: Ivan
Date: 2002-03-31 20:47
Sure, sure. Some of the major works, of course. Brahms, Weber, Mozart, Stockhausen, Francaix, Nielsen... no gays.
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Author: LIsten to me
Date: 2002-04-07 22:13
Ivan sounds like an idiot to me
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Author: Ivan
Date: 2002-04-08 01:29
Ma' I don't understend the last message... +
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