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 Re: I don't understand "warm," "dark," "covered," et al
Author: SebastianB 
Date:   2022-10-17 00:29

SecondTry: I will take a stab at it. Context: I am new to the clarinet world so I am almost certain to use terms in non-standard ways.

Although I understand why you would think of that recording of Manasee's sound as 'covered', I think 'covered' is more useful when it describes a dominant differentiation, i.e. a sound primarily characterized by a lack of upper partials. Here the primary quality is one of diffusion or softness. Dark-seeming, yes, but one senses that the upper partials may be there, but as part of the soft envelope.

de Peyer's recorded sound here has stronger upper partials but it also feels more defined like the partials are more in focus, with a hint of a separation between the highest partials and the rest of the sound, a quality sometimes exhibited very strongly by modern players.

Karl - I agree that musicians have the ability to hear differences, it's a question of "agreement". But I would say really it's a deeper problem of proposing words or meanings which are so well grounded--and framing the issue's importance in such a way--that enough people will go along. I don't think agreement is the standard of value here, but it is (for better and worse) a prerequisite of successful linguistic change.
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