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 Re: Translation
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2022-07-31 12:21

JohnP wrote:

> Google "hinaufziehen Mahler" and and you will find references
> to the instruction in the oboe part of Mahler 3. Usually
> interpreted as an upward gliss or smear. Whether there’s any
> other use of this term in music I don’t know.

Interesting. That's the context that led me to ask the question. I've played Mahler's 3rd a couple of times and heard it both live and on recordings, and until recently had either never heard or never noticed (hard to believe) the oboist playing an actual gliss in that passage. I looked at my score when I got home (I was driving when I heard it) and sure enough, there was that instruction. It's too small to read comfortably in my study score, so I never noticed it. Unlike "Schalltrichter in die Höhe" it doesn't appear in the clarinet parts of any Mahler I've played, so I've never had to deal with it as a performer.

I wonder how you do that on an oboe? If it's as relatively easy to do as on a clarinet. Oboist's don't have Rhapsody in Blue to motivate them to learn it.

BTW, thanks for the link to that Mahler glossary. Google's "pull up" seems pretty close, once you connect it to the 3rd Symphony context, but I didn't get "hinaufziehen" when I reversed the search and tried to get Google to translate "glissando" into German from English or Italian. Sometimes Google can be context-deaf.

Karl

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