Author: SecondTry
Date: 2021-05-13 19:32
Fuzzy wrote:
> Well, now that the conversation has gone a bit away from
> musical topics, I'll be happy to correspond with anyone
> pertaining to this topic off-bboard.
You're right Fuzzy. Discussing Covid isn't like discussing alternative fingerings, but the pandemic effects are ability to perform, so it's closely related.
>
> There have been many straw-man, anti-scientific posits in this
> thread.
I know you don't want to discuss this further here but I really disagree. I've read through the posts---and I'm not finding much fiction or irresponsible rhetoric here. Maybe you'd be up to showing me where.
Pretending to know what we don't know only causes more
> confusion and harm, acting within that ignorance can cause
> significant damage. Lots of people have died in history due to
> some folks believing they know best what is good for society
> and forcing their views on others - always in the name of the
> "greater good."
All true but little has been said by anyone here that doesn't comport with the best available science. Sure, there could be long term negative effects of getting inoculated but odds are there are not, especially considering the alternative.
>
> I'd still like to understand how unvaccinated folks in a music
> ensemble pose a risk to anyone else that hasn't also accepted
> the risk willingly. Perhaps I misunderstood the topic.
>
First off, anyone choosing not to get vaccinated has not accepted the risk willingly because in that decision they have also potentially imposed risk on others without their consent. Your logic applies to sunscreen, whose choice to be used or not by one, does not directly effect others.
As to how the vaccinated could pose threat to the non-vaccinated, they (the vaccinate) can possibly transmit a variant of the illness that wasn't part of the vaccine, that was allowed to manifest itself precisely because those who you think accepted the entire risk (they didn't) incubated it through their lack of inoculation.
> Regardless, I'm leaving this thread as "agree with us and force
> people to conform" isn't a conversation I find to be productive
> or even moral.
This isn't clothes fashion as you know. The "agree with us" saves lives and involves minimal sacrifice and would be hard pressed to be seen as anything but compassionate; certainly not immoral.
>
> By the way...this single year of inconvenience we've all
> experienced together - I (as I'm sure others among us) have
> lived it for decades, yet the person I care for is still with
> us -
...fuzzy....this is irrelevant to why people should or shouldn't get vaccinated. I'm glad you're a good care giver and all, and that you appreciate immunocompromise, but the arguments for all to get inoculated are unaffected by your role as care giver here.
a testimony of my care, and the care of others - so I have
> no need for the morality preachers to indoctrinate me about the
> proper way of living with folks nearly entirely lacking an
> immune system, or what others must do in order to fit your
> personal whims. Masks, hygiene, quarantine - these are old hat
> for me, and I never once would dream of forcing others to
> change their lives to fit my situation or viewpoint. I'd urge
> you not to make assumptions.
>
> Fuzzy
> ;^)>>>
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