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 Re: barrel and mouthpiece stuck
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2021-01-22 09:21

This is why sometimes perception is not necessarily reality. People recommend against "brute force"... but what is that really? A certain amount of force is required to move a stuck joint. It's better to just say... force. There might be a lot of ways to exert this force, but you still need it to move the part.

Actually it's the opposite. If using (brute) force with your hands (possibly with better grips) doesn't work, then you need more force. If you can't take it apart with just force, but rocking with a paper shim works, then it means it used more force.

The paper method is maybe less risky if you are not careful enough using other methods, though too much force rocking is much more risky than too much in the direction of the instrument and just pulling. There is slightly less friction because you are rocking the part, but the same is happening from generally rocking it and/or just using force.

Statistics from the last 20 years or so of removing stuck joints...
Force (brute force if you like) worked 90% of the time. It's very obvious but maybe worth mentioning that you need to twist and not just pull.
Silicone mats (or any type of better grip) helped a lot and sometimes made the difference.
Putting in the fridge (not a freezer) was almost never needed, but helped a few times (I did it more as a test, usually I don't, regardless of what's needed).
I've never had a tenon or socket break or damaged, regardless of method used.
I've never damaged or bent a key, regardless of method used.

In the worst cases, pulling (with grips) or rocking doesn't work. It's the worst case scenario where only forcing a gradually thicker shim works. In those cases, there was no difference between just using force or the rocking (with or without shims). Neither worked. Even in those cases I've never had a tenon or socket break, and this exerts much more force than you could ever have when just pulling with your hands, even if it looks like it's not.

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