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 Re: Accuracy in orchestral auditions
Author: Agomongo 
Date:   2019-11-20 21:39

@Paul

I am glad to see someone else agrees in my sentiment. There is a great recording with Louis Diemer playing the Chopin Nocturne. He changes the rhythm A LOT, but always gets back to beat one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbPALIytVqg.

Another example where a slight change of rhythm and not being exactly together can work and can be more beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClfzPUX30Kw

Note: I am referring to the singer. While the accom. is consistent and together it was performance practice of the time dictates that they play it like that, because it's like a funeral march, however if someone wanted to diverge from that I would be okay with that too. Though at the same time if we put a metronome on clicking away with 8th notes it would not line up exactly, because playing exactly with a clicking metronome destroys phrasing and doesn't allow the notes to breath.

Or when Martin Frost players the Brahms clarinet quintet when he enters for the first time it's not exactly on the downbeat.

It's funny when we read treatises of the time it seems to me that they were more free with the rhythm and treated notation as a relative science not an EXACT science. To say that Beethoven wrote a quarter note with in mind that EXACT length is ridiculous. Notation before Stravinsky was a blueprint it was not an exact mathematical science.

@clarinetwife

The metronome was invented to check one's tempo. Not to be one's time keeper.



Post Edited (2019-11-20 21:42)

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