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 Re: techniques to develop diaphragm breathing
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2019-07-31 20:27

>> Just recently I tried to doing a load of heavy gardening (pick axe stuff mostly) and after that I found that my abdominal breathing became completely automatic, just as KDK says. It was a very big change, and nothing to do with intentionally breathing in or out or with any particular muscle. I just knocked all of the tension out of my muscles and they kind of started working properly all on their own. >>

You were in a situation where your body systems directly caused you to breathe, because your body needed more oxygen. In this case, your breathing was involuntary.

But of course the diaphragm can be used voluntarily, or intentionally, as in: "Now I'm going to breathe in!"

With an experience of the first sort of breathing, you breathe in VOLUNTARILY using the same physical actions.

Karl wrote:

>> The thing is, filling your lungs isn't a function of strength or athletic prowess. >>

Indeed.

>> It depends more on relaxing your abdominal muscles and allowing your lungs to expand fully as your diaphragm involuntarily drops to allow air in. >>

The misleading word here is 'involuntarily'. If you've been engaging in the physical exercise you describe, then yes, you'll breathe willy-nilly, so your diaphragm is acting independently of voluntary control.

But if you're taking a breath prior to playing the clarinet, then your diaphragm IS subject to voluntary control – you decide when to take the breath, for example. And, with some discomfort, you COULD override your post-exercise involuntary breathing for a second or two.

The subjects of breathing and support have been extensively rehearsed here, by me and others:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=714&t=714

...and, if you can bear it:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=1132&t=1132

A difficulty you will notice in these exchanges is that it's very difficult to talk about physical matters without using elementary scientific concepts, and not everyone here is familiar with those. For example:............Paul Aviles "would never use the word 'force'," which means that his posts inhabit a pre-Newtonian worldview.

SOME people find it strange to hear that a feather exerts a downward force on a table on which it is resting, and want to argue about it. Yet, if we are to understand feathers and tables – and clarinets – we need the word.

Tony



Post Edited (2019-07-31 20:44)

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