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Re: Vandoren BD5 Intonation

Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2018-10-23 01:27

Actually no fellow players, in comparison the deepest to the baffles I just used the 2 models mentioned and did not talk about mine. I would have stated that.

The deepest baffles by far are the Zinner's, then the Pomarico models both the crystal and the rubber mouthpieces. But sadly the bores are too small.

If you want exact measurements email me and I'd be most happy to give them to you. But remember Vandoren mouthpieces are not very accurate, but these will surely be guides, and within about the thickness of a few human hairs.

Unless you are using magnifying glasses or something like that it is my guess most people can't see the differences between a few thousandths of an inch. For example can you tell what the thickness of the tip of a reed is by looking at it? I can't. But I know the Mitchell Lurie reeds tips were 5 to 5 1/2 thousandths of an inch thick and the Grand Concert reeds I designed were 6 to 6 1/2 thousandths thick. Then the tenor sax Hemke reeds were also only about 5 thousandths of an inch think. Yes I was part of all of those designs. I don't think anyone could see the difference. So my feelings are the same with the mouthpieces. We are looking at just a few thousandths difference, nt a 1/2 inch or something. Thus why I made 2 special baffle gauges to avoid conflicts such as this. Eyes play trick of all of us. So how did I make these gauges? I went to California Institute of Technology. Yes I never said this before. I do have secrets just like everyone. I don't want to give anyone the idea that I'm smarter than someone else. Let's just say I like solving puzzles. I'm still that same musician with a great sound who understands sound and measurements.

Again my offer stands. If you want to know the measurements I'll be happy to email them. In fact if you want your own personal mouthpiece measured I'll do that at no cost; you just pay $3.50 for shipping.

Oh, one last thing, the old Chedeville and Kaspar mouthpieces from Cicero and some from Chicago had the same baffle and they were actually a shade deeper than the BD5's and the M series and not as deep as the Zinner's. But very close to the Selmer Concepts. However the Concept mouthpieces suck unless you know how to fix them. My conclusion is a lot of the early Kaspar mouthpieces were Chedeville blanks. The bores were exact too. They had the exact taper. But we know the Kaspar's did use other mouthpieces after the Chedeville's were no longer available. Most of them came from Babbitt. People often say Kaspars used Buffet mouthpieces. Not true, they just don't measure right.

It's fine to argue but maybe make the tools to back it up first. Like I said eyes play tricks on you and I'm happy to share my findings evening with mouthpiece refacers and mouthpiece makers, because you still need to make the gauges.

Cheers!

Bob

Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces

Yamaha Artist 2015

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