Author: NBeaty
Date: 2018-02-28 00:18
Brad Behn- $160
David McClune- $75
Vytass Krass- $85
Walter Grabner- $67
John Thomas- $65/hr
Keith Bradbury- $75-95
And the list goes on. Ramon is very popular right now and can afford to charge more (partially due to his constant travel around the world), although last I had heard it wasn’t $400 for reface (don’t think most of his mouthpieces cost that much). At any rate, he may be charging more than the short list above, but that’s indeed what constitutes an outlier. Saying that everyone is charging $400 for a reface is incorrect and extremely misleading. It’s wrong and it’s not close, unless we change the meaning of the word.
On the same note, saying everyone (or even a majority or significant portion) of mouthpiece makers are charging $2,000 is wrong, not close, and misleading to those who don’t know otherwise. In the US, Behn is the top of the market, in both quality and price. Most everyone selling zinners (including Behn zinners) are between $175-300. Not even in the ballpark of $2,000.
Charging $275 to reface/rework a zinner is outrageous. Every refacer I know, myself included, is basically charging for an hour of their time. Most people sell their customized zinners NEW for less than that (whether you like their work or not is beside the point).
The constant tearing down of other people with wildly inaccurate claims and implications that you must be smarter than everyone else because of where you went to school or that you made your own mold (despite that plenty of people have done this) isn’t doing anyone any favors, yourself included.
Why not provide a link to a video where you show people how to do the nail polish technique so people can try on a junk mouthpiece with at least SOME instruction? Otherwise, it’s just not going to help anyone. It would also avoid all of the nonsense that has gone on with this thread.
I personally have a plethora of disagreements with how many refacers do their work. Some of it is a difference in goals of what makes a great mouthpiece and sometimes it has to do with techniques I don’t find beneficial, or often detrimental. I don’t see any reason to call people out (which you do to everyone by including everyone in your statements) though as you have, as it seems at the very least to be unprofessional.
After all, the sales tactics by some who you have called out in other threads often include, “if you’re not using my products, you’re not going to win a job and will never sound good” (something someone said to me when trying to sell me something very expensive, word for word). If your distaste is indeed for this type of business/“professional “ practice, then why do the same thing?
On the note of 3D printing, it has already gained momentum in the clarinet community by a young upstart by a Norsworthy student, Ryan Pereira. He’s printing ligatures, barrels, bells, mouthpiece caps, and more. From what I saw, they were selling quite well at the TMEA convention earlier this month.
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