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Re: Saving DEAD sounds of Zinner's

Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2018-02-27 00:35

Dan, the Zinner's are actually not molded. They are made by a CNC machine. "Computer Numerical Control"

This is good and bad. I won't go into details but when you set the machine up it is computer operated and it is set to run a given number of mouthpieces. This is the good part. The person can walk away for hours.

The bad part is when you set it up again for another run this set of mouthpieces may not be the same. The tooling may be dull, the operator may have put in the wrong numbers, the rubber is different, chips of rubber get in the way of the cutting tooling, things like that. Even the temperature can become a factor, too warm or too hot inside the building. Rubber gets hot when it is being cut.

So in a lot of cases molding is better. The rubber is stable. It is heated to a the required temperature and you've used the same rubber for many years. But rubber can cause issues too. Some rubber is too soft some rubber shrinks too much, but the rubber I use comes from Michigan and it's as hard as it gets. It also only shrinks 3 percent. But even then there is some needed handwork. Nothing is perfect. But I like molds better than CNC machines.

A good example is finding a Vandoren M13 where 2 play the same. You will have to test about 15 or more to find a match. the rubber shrinks too much. The Selmer Concept rubber is too soft. You need a patch on the beak even if you don't bite.

Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces

Yamaha Artist 2015

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