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 Re: Beethoven Violin Concerto transposed Clarinet Part
Author: kdk ★2017
Date:   2018-01-20 22:40

Philip Caron wrote:

> Roughly what percentage of actual professional clarinetists own
> a C clarinet? If less than 100%, do the others create printed
> transcriptions, or do they transpose "by ear"?

50 years ago, when I was still studying formally, every clarinetist I knew - including the Philadelphia Orchestra players - routinely transposed C parts to whatever clarinet lay more conveniently. At some point later in the century, clarinetists began buying C instruments. I think the movement toward authentic performance with period instruments made people re-think even playing more modern music on instruments other than what the composer called for.

There are lots of classical pieces with C clarinet parts that are much easier to handle technically on the C than on either A or Bb. I would not support the idea of only publishing transposed parts where the original is for C clarinet. Since I own a C, I would much rather play Rossini C clarinet parts and pieces like Moldau, Mozartiana and the third movement of Tchaikovsky's 2nd as originally written on C clarinet. It would be helpful if publishers would also provide transposed parts for players who don't own Cs, but, for me, not at the expense of including the original.

To your last question, most "classical" clarinetists when I was in my teens and twenties learned to transpose most C parts at sight. You might write out especially tricky passages. Some players (annoyingly for me) wrote (write) transposed letter names above the printed C clarinet notes. This can at best be a distraction to other players who use the part. At worst, it can cause mistakes to be made when the person writing in the letters writes the wrong note. I know that in some cases back in pre-Finale days the Philadelphia Orchestra librarians wrote out transposed parts for the clarinetists - I have a copy of the hand-written Eb clarinet part to Til Eulenspiegel that was used in the orchestra. I don't know what they do in the major orchestras now - The Philadelphia Orchestra owns C clarinets and a D clarinet, so transpositions are probably no longer needed.

Karl
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