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 Re: Rico Reeds or Vandoren Reeds?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2017-11-18 07:00

This is kind of funny. Someone wrote to me the last few days saying that EVERY Vandoren reed in the box of V21's played. I told him to write a book on how he adjusts reeds, because this never happens!

We have to remember the Pesticides on Rico reeds. So play on this if you wish.

Here is what's going on in the reed world. Here is the truth -

Vandoren is getting their cane for all over the world. The head man was Marc Charpenter. Remember this name... He was there at Vandoren for 40 years. He is now gone. So Vandoren doesn't have great cane and a great reed master at Vandoren anymore. Everything has changed. So the reeds in general pretty much have gone down hill.

But Vandoren will ALWAYS remain in business, just like Buffet who has gone downhill. From past posts we can pretty much agree to this. Yes there are those who will always buy Buffets! Good! We don't want Buffet and Vandoren to close their doors. Actually, when I worked for Rico, Vandoren ran out of cane and bought some cane from Rico. Then they grew cane in Argentina. YUK! A horrible place to grow cane, because the reeds don't last. Remember I worked at Rico so I saw where the best cane came from and I saw cane under microscopes, and other fun toys like that and yes I designed the first Grand Concert line of reeds and I was in charge of the Mitchell Lurie reeds! A super great man and a wonderful friend.

So where did Marc go? Remember I told you about him? Mark Charpenter? He was the head man for 40 years at Vandoren?

Marc is with Steuer Reeds! YES!!! You can still get that Vandoren reed but at Steuer now. Using only top French VAR cane!

However, we all know that "Loyalty," will stay with Vandoren and Rico. Pesticides and all!

So this thread is kind of useless. It is fun to read though. So many interesting comments and often wrong comments. But I am not going there. I am staying with the total facts!

But we can't change people. People will still pay $30 for a box of Vandoren reeds just to find those 2 special reeds that play. The reeds will last 2 weeks or so. So that is $15 per reed. Rico has a better deal because you get a body full of FREE PESTICIDES with every reed! No extra charge!

Folks these are the facts! Good or bad, you can yell at me or praise me for giving you the true facts. You can tell me I'm wrong because your teacher said to buy Vandoren or Rico and they know more than me. Well because of this Rico nor Vandoren won't be closing their doors anytime soon. Spending $15 per reed is what they want! Support them and be sure to tell your students too. Be sure to tell the parents of the 9 year old kids that Rico reeds are great for kids, but they do have pesticides in every reed. Oh, leave that part out. We don't want Rico to go out of business. Notice how Rico is still using PESTICIDES!

I promised all of the readers here that if Rico stopped using pesticides I would announce it boldly. Sadly I haven't been able to do this. What a shame. For those that are interested my attorney recently threw down on the table an offer of $824,000. I'll keep you posted. Yes pesticide poisoning is this serious. Fellow musicians should be very aware of the damage in which Rico reeds can cause. If any of you remember I walked away from an offer this year of $328,000, so the price keeps going up. If they do not accept it we will go to court and I will ask for more.

As I said - These are the true facts with Vandoren and Rico.


Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces


Yamaha Artist 2015




Post Edited (2017-11-18 07:23)

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