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Re: Proper Embouchure and how to get Ping sound

Author: NBeaty
Date: 2017-08-14 19:01

That's awesome Rob! Get them doing the right stuff early and the sky is the limit!

Asking someone who's anchor tonguing to use the tip usually feels about the same as offering a piece of bacon to a vegan. An argument and much silliness ensues and in the end everyone walks away annoyed...

That being said- I wouldn't choose to do it that way or to teach it that way due at least in part to the limitations in articulation speed. Many players will say, "well, you just learn to double tongue. Here listen to this" followed by some of the most atrocious articulation you've ever heard. There are players who can double tongue to where people can't tell, but more often than not they haven't gotten it to that point yet.

If you can play the Scherzo at 88-92 with anchor tonguing, I'm impressed. I've personally never anchor tongued, beyond just trying it out to see what it's all about in a practice room. Articulation speed has been difficult enough for me over the years...

Unless there is something extreme with the length of the tongue (as you mentioned) where anchor tonguing really does help and is necessary, then I would advise against it. I would say the frequency of this being an issue that PREVENTS non-anchor tonguing is quite low though.

That being said- double tonguing properly is a skill worth learning for the advanced (beyond high school and early undergrad) player who already has solidified their technique relating to embouchure and single tongue, so long as the sound and clarity doesn't suffer and it doesn't distract from the mountains of other things to practice.

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