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 Re: How do you approach baroque music?
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2016-12-10 02:28

Thanks for your post Tony.

Harnoncourt certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea. But he made a huge impression on the members of my orchestra and his productions with us are still considered to be amongst the best we ever did.

One of the things I admired about him was his constant questioning of "why did the composer write THAT"? In the aria No. 10 in Die Entführung, Mozart precedes and follows Constanzes line "Selbst der Luft darf ich nicht sagen", with the special sounds of low register flutes and throat register basset horns (the only aria in this opera to use these instruments). This is a place where Harnoncourt would encourage us to allow "airy" quality of the instruments in those registers to come out (noise!), to better support the text ("Luft"). I could give many other examples of where we weren't required to play with our most "beautiful sound" because of what the music was describing.

I have a slightly different take on the first 2 bars of the allegro in K361. Mozart borrowed this theme note-for-note from Philidor's opera comique Maréchal Ferrant. The opening text in the aria goes like this:

"Je suis douce,
je suis bonne."

I agree that there should be no crescendo through the word "suis", but there is an impetus towards the main words: "douce" and "bonne". So to me, bars 1+2 form a single unit, as do 3+4. There is a movement of energy towards bar two and four (douce and bonne) even if the word "suis" is stressed less than "je". What I understand you describing would be making a diminuendo over two notes in bar one followed by another sort of music in bar two, which is a little different. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this very well- I could demonstrate easier. But maybe you understand what I mean?

I'm quite fascinated by your ideas on effective and unobtrusive use of rhythmic nuance. I hope you'll explain more of that some time?



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