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 Re: Relevance of long tones??
Author: ned 
Date:   2016-04-11 09:05

DaphnisetChloe wrote “Well I thought the purpose of long tones was to improve your sound; to increase the beauty of your tone. But oh well...’’

If your instructor taught you this – well and good – but do I detect a note of sarcasm with your ‘’But oh well…’’ sign-off?
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Morrigan wrote ‘’ Ned, do you have any sound clips of your playing? I'd love to know if simply 'exercising' the lip while having your mind on something else works. If it does, I'd certainly adopt the practice!’’

I’m unsure precisely what you are asking here - what would you like to hear? If you genuinely want to hear what I sound like, I could possibly find something to put up. Perhaps you could reciprocate with a sound clip of yourself?

With your credentials clearly shown though, I suspect you may have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek. And, yes, exercising my lips DOES work.
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Ed wrote ‘’ To use a term popular with runners and cyclists, I try to avoid "junk miles". If others prefer different methods, that is great.

At the age of sixty eight I have learned not to waste my time on non-essential activities. I don't think that junk miles has anything much to with what I pursue.

My ‘’work-out’’ IS essential, and it can be done whilst I do other undemanding tasks and it works for ME. This may be the third time that I have mentioned this in this thread.
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Seebreeze wrote ‘’ Personally I think there is little or no value in just "exercising" lip muscles in a distracted sort of way while you are multitasking on some other activity. The entire purpose of lip training is to produce a certain sound and quality of music performance’’

By ''lip training'' you DO include long tones, I presume? Clearly, it is not just for the attainment of a ''certain sound''. It's not MY reason for playing long tones and others on this BB seem to agree.

And also…

’’ In reality, your lips need only strength enough to produce the sound you want and need in your musical environment and the endurance to sustain it''

‘’..endurance to sustain it…’’ Precisely! If I tried to play musically meaningful passages immediately – from ’’cold’’ as it were – it would be junk. It takes me about ten minutes to cross the discomfort barrier, prior to playing something meaningful. I’m sure I stated this too, in an earlier post.
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Philip Caron wrote “So, Ned, what you do sounds reasonable to me. However, you lost me with your problems with terminology. I think that metaphoric terms descriptive of people's subjective response to different clarinet sounds are about as good as you can get, words all being fairly approximate anyway.’’

Yes, I think you are correct. It is extraordinarily difficult to find words to describe sounds adequately.



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