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Re: Permanent fix for 442 bass clarinet?

Author: clarnibass
Date: 2016-04-10 09:11

>> The horn plays so sharp that, when not pulled out at all, the tuner thinks it is playing a note higher (but, flat). It has to be higher than 442 then. <<

Yes. If you are checking the tuning of a certain note at 440 and you get the next semi tone above but flat, then as was mentioned it's more than 50 cents sharp. That is at least 453 tuning. You might struggle slightly less if you needed to tune to 442 but not really.

Pretty much all players deal with variables more significant than 440 or 442 every time they play. It's pretty common that I have to open the neck by a significant amount (maybe as much as 10mm, maybe more, I've never measured) between the beginning and the end of a rehearsal.

Rounding and simplifying again, if you tune to 453, then for a note that is around the C4 area - about 700mm (very rough length) - you would need to add about 20mm length to get to 440. The question is also what part of the instrument is sharp and by how much.
If you get the entire clarinet at that tuning, then you'd need to add 10mm+ for the shortest notes and as much as 30mm+ for the longest note. I'm guessing it is not the entire instrument that tunes to 453 or higher?

I would try to open the neck by an amount that would get the throat notes about right (aiming mainly for open G, unless other notes are drastically out), then if needed open the middle joint to get middle C more or less right but even accept some notes being slightly flat if necessary. Then see how the overall tuning/intonation is and if it's manageable.

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