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 Re: Open tip mp, sounds great but I bite. Closed tip, no biting but sounds terrible
Author: kdk ★2017
Date:   2015-09-10 07:43

Paul Aviles wrote:

> As Marcellus used to say,
> you blow as if you were cooling off a hot cup of cocoa. This
> is opposed to how you'd blow on your hands to warm them up
> after coming in from frigid Winter temperatures (you place you
> tongue low and back as if saying "hah").
>

The whole warm/cool air idea seems to me nonsensical. I wonder if Marcellus or anyone else ever measured the temperature of air as someone blew on a hot cup of cocoa or cold hands. I don't see a reason why the air temp coming from a person's lungs would change whether you blow a lot of air or a little. The practical effect of blowing on hot cocoa or cold hands is that the air you blow is necessarily cooler than the one and warmer than the other.

I hate to think of the lesson time that has been wasted over the decades (maybe centuries) trying to teach use of air with this image to students who have no idea what it means - until the further explanation is added that it really means blow more/blow less air. What is wrong with just saying blow more air for forte, less for piano but keep the abdominal muscles engaged at all times? Why use opaque and possibly inaccurate descriptions when the accurate one is so easily at hand?

I also have a little more opinion to express about "air speed." What John seems to be describing is the rate of flow over time - not the same thing as speed - distance covered over time. But I think air speed (as distinct from rate of flow) may be something we *can* control and which may affect tone quality. But it's very late and I need to stop here. I'll write more tomorrow if the topic hasn't been used up by then.

Karl
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