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Author: Ben Shaffer
Date: 2014-07-04 00:36
Quick question.... I'm looking to upgrade to a new VanDoren MP and of course have heard a lot good things about them. That said though it looks like there are a number of models.
I'm an Adult Beginner and would like to get an all around MP...maybe easier said than done
My local Music Store has a number of models and the salesman recommends the M30
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-07-04 01:23
I know a number of professionals that do well with the M30. For me, the rails are a bit thick and it makes articulation a bit logy.
The 5RV Lyre is probably the 'most popular' since it has been around the longest. Other good models are the M13, M15 and the Masters CL4.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2014-07-04 01:43
If it is the "Most Popular Vandoren MPC" it's gotta be B45. Golden standard for many educators and their beginners.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-07-04 01:58
Beginner? Fobes 'debut' and a Vandoren Blue box #3.0
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2014-07-04 02:03
I stock Vandoren Mouthpieces for trial and help students choose. I would recommend the 5RV lyre as a great mouthpiece for both beginning and advancing students.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Filettofish
Date: 2014-07-04 04:21
The B45, 5RV Lyre and M30 are three of the most popular Vandoren mouthpieces, highly touted by educators and performers
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Author: donald
Date: 2014-07-04 10:05
In my entire life I've only ever met ONE person who played to an advanced level and who played a B45. That was Phil Green- he won an audition for Asoc Principal (acting) in the APO playing a B45 "dot", and then in a rehearsal picked up my clarinet, tried a Zinner I had refaced and never played the B45 again (though he also only played my mouthpiece for a little while).
Many players in Europe use and endorse the B40. Serious players, they sound great and they make all their students use the same B40 mouthpiece (this behaviour is clearly not limited to band directors in the USA). Players I know who studied in Denmark and Finland "had" to leave their US Zinner based custom mouthpieces and change to Vandoren B40.
dn
Post Edited (2014-07-05 02:06)
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-07-05 00:01
During interval of a performance at the Paris Opera about 25-30 years back I was in discussion with the the 2nd clarinet player talking the very oversize barrel he was using (so nothing new there) and other equipment etc and he said his principal Maurice Gabai was using the B45. It certainly was very widely used in Europe at least back then though does now seem to have gone out of favour a bit.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-07-05 00:10
"The secret ingredient is... nothing!"
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: ruben
Date: 2014-07-05 00:34
Andrew Marriner of the London Symphony also used B45 for a long time. He now uses Lomax; a model named after him.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2014-07-05 05:55
ruben wrote:
> Andrew Marriner of the London Symphony also used B45 for a long
> time. He now uses Lomax; a model named after him.
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Acker Bilk, Reginald Kell, Stanley Drucker amongst others...
it maybe not the best anymore but it is flexible beginner friendly middle of the road piece. And pretty cheap you can get used on "that site" for ~<$30, and sell it back for as much when you're done.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-07-05 05:59
cyclopathic wrote:
> Stanley Drucker amongst others...
Citation, please.
...GBK
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Author: personwithaclarinet
Date: 2014-07-05 09:00
I don't know enough to compare it to other models, but the M30 is very good. It works well for me (a teenaged student) and also for several professionals I know.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-07-05 09:05
For me, the skeptical amongst us regarding the B45 is due to the fact that it is a more open mouthpiece. Personally I would not want a student getting used to a weak reed on an open mouthpiece. It is NOT easy to get a focused, consistent timbre that way......that's why I wouldn't use a B45.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: bkinlein
Date: 2014-07-06 03:28
"For me, the skeptical amongst us regarding the B45 is due to the fact that it is a more open mouthpiece. Personally I would not want a student getting used to a weak reed on an open mouthpiece. It is NOT easy to get a focused, consistent timbre that way......that's why I wouldn't use a B45."
So what mouthpiece(s) do you recommend to them?
Bart Kinlein
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Author: as9934
Date: 2014-07-07 07:39
Try a 5rv/5rv lyre , hite premier, rico reserve x0/5/10, fobes debut, and anything else you can get your hands on. I hear that WWBW has a mouthpiece trial thing you can do. I agree that a B45 might be a little much for a beginner as it has a large facing and chamber and is thus harder to produce a good sound on.
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Wind Ensemble
Buffet E11 clarinet , Vandoren Masters CL6 13 series mouthpiece w/ Pewter M/O Ligature, Vandoren V12 3.5
Yamaha 200ad clarinet, Vandoren B45 mouthpiece, Rovner ligature
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