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 Re: Why gains in the practice room don't stick
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2014-06-30 02:31

I don't know what the context was for Perlman's statement, but I don't think the point of this summary of Make It Stick is to recommend practicing s-l-o-w-l-y or fast or any other tempo in particular. Dr. Kageyama's main argument as he takes it from the book is that effective practice often takes a longer time to produce results.

"We tend to gravitate to practice strategies that maximize the appearance of mastery in the short term. ...Yet, the strategies that research has found to maximize durable and flexible learning and true mastery in the long term often don’t provide us with the same instant gratification and rapid gains in practice. Instead, they may frustrate us, appear to slow down our progress, and make us feel like we’re not “getting” it as quickly (italics mine)." This description is then followed with Perlman's quotation, whatever Perlman meant by it at the time he said it..

I don't want to denigrate the possible effectiveness of practicing at a tempo slow enough to be able to play the material perfectly - especially over a period of days or weeks (which is more related to Dr. Kageyama's blog article). We've been down that road before here, and, Aesop's tortoise notwithstanding, there has been disagreement about it, at least as a universal approach to practicing everything we find difficult or awkward.

But, respectfully, I think the discussion in this thread of the article Bruno cited (and the book it summarizes) has, by my reading, gone off in a wrong direction. His "Three key principles of effective learning" aren't new but seem worth discussing and, as I read them, they have little or nothing to do with the tempo at which you practice the hard passages.

Karl

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