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Author: Kc2edh
Date: 2013-10-20 18:45
Someone asked to borrow my copy of Crusell #2, so I let her. She finally gave it back six months later, wrinkled, ripped, with dark pencil marks in every measure. Even after a half hour of erasing it still looks like crap. In the past when I borrowed music I would make a photocopy before marking (or losing it!) and return the originals right away. Honestly, I'm surprised! This was an aspiring music teacher, a few years older than myself. Before I had my own A clarinet I had borrowed hers as well, and would always return it with polished keys or a freshly-vacuumed case, just to make it look nice and show my appreciation.
What kind of etiquette do you try to follow when borrowing things from others?
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Author: FDF
Date: 2013-10-20 19:12
As Polonius tried to tell Laertes, “Neither a borrower nor a lender be.” Of course, Hamlet thought Polonius was an old fool.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-10-20 20:07
I let someone borrow some music of mine only to get it back with all their markings written in biro.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2013-10-20 21:16
Maybe I am old-fashioned, but i expect returned stuff to be in original state, same as I try to return borrowed equipment, the latter usually accompanied by a bottle of wine or a pack of fine cookies.
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Ben
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Author: Wes
Date: 2013-10-20 22:09
When someone wishes to borrow music, I offer to make a copy for them.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-10-20 22:20
I'd send her an email saying: "Dear ____, When I loaned you my copy of the Crusell Concerto #2, I expected to get it back in the same condition as when I sent it. Instead, it has many markings that I have not been able to erase. I have purchased a new copy, which I think you ought to pay for. You are welcome to the marked copy."
Ken Shaw
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Author: ned
Date: 2013-10-20 23:00
Never loan anyone ANYTHING...I have lost lots of stuff over the years.
I have come from being good natured and naive as a trusting youngster, to being a grumpy old bugger.
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2013-10-20 23:52
I'm of the "neither a borrower..." school. The only time I lend out music is a piano part to an accompanist I'm going to perform with or the parts to a piece of chamber music I own. If a student is going to start on something, I'll Xerox enough of it to give him or her a start on practicing it, and either provide information on how to order a copy or offer to buy a copy myself which the student can buy from me at my cost.
I have very occasionally lent instruments - my Eb or bass clarinet or a sax - out to friends and have had mixed results. Sometimes the instrument has come back in better shape than it had been when I lent it out. Other times it has come back to me needing adjustment to get it back to the condition in which it left me. I do this very rarely. Since I only would lend an instrument to a friend, in the interest of continued friendship I generally just have any damage (it's never major - just little adjustments) quietly repaired and don't say anything except, possibly, "no" the next time that person asks to borrow something. Life is too short.
Karl
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Author: davyd
Date: 2013-10-20 23:53
I take Wes's idea one step farther: if someone wants to borrow music, I provide a copy rather than my original. Hopefully that's "fair use"?
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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2013-10-20 23:57
A friend of mine says "never lend anything you aren't willing to give away".
AAAClarinet
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Author: Frostfan
Date: 2013-10-21 02:01
I agree with that advice on lending, for sure. I have lost many a piece along the way in that fashion. There is also an "accidental piece" that I found in my pile recently....never realized that I didn't give back the Rigoletto Variations. So I guess I can't complain.
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Author: ned
Date: 2013-10-21 23:26
Oh year - I just remembered - I lent a record to a friend at one time. I never got it back. I went over one time later to see that he had written HIS name on the back.
I never used to label my stuff until then - so there's a clue - put your name on stuff in BIG letters!
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Author: alto gether
Date: 2013-10-22 17:51
Oh, well. As the first composer to comment on this thread:
You can't lend what you don't own.
Music copyright isn't as simple as it might be. I have no problem with people buying, or renting, music and then making copies to mark up for their own use (and destroying them when they return the originals, in the case of renting.)
Distributing copies hither and wide, problem, unless the music is no longer available from the composer/arranger.
And a disclaimer: I have made *zero* from printed music in the last decade, and never broken even on CD sales. Downloads, dozens of dollars. But there are real arrangers/composers without day jobs, and they have to eat.
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