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 Re: What etudes did the legends practice?
Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date:   2011-12-13 23:17

Whether Bonade thought that the Rose studies were adequate inert material for a student to acquire, through him, sufficient technique for ANY task interests me really not at all.

What does interest me is the wrong-headed dynamics and phrase-marks that he added to these innocent exercises. 'Interest' is perhaps the wrong word: the conservatoires in which I teach are dedicated to transmitting a view of classical music that is totally at odds with what he so presumptuously calls, the 'correct' phrasing of it.

You might think that his way of approaching the matter had died out; but the book by McGill, 'Sound in Motion' shows that it has not.

I will make a post about that book in the future. For me, its very subtitle, "A Performer's Guide to Greater Musical Expression" is sufficient to sound warning bells -- just as Howard Klug's article entitled, "How to Sell Slow Movements" rang warning bells before.

I'm sure that Tabuteau's own playing had a great positive influence in his time, both on oboists and on other wind players. But now, I'm prepared to argue that what remains of him doesn't, in classical music. (In much other music, too, it generates a hyperactive and narcissistic effect.) We need to approach classical music with eyes and ears that can appreciate the wonderful and flexible system within which it operates.

It's quite untrue that McGill's caricature of that system is representative of what it has to offer. Rather, it's HIS alternative 'system', derived from Tabuteau's misunderstandings of the classical style, that needs to be killed off, and consigned to the dustbin.

Tony
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