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 Re: Double Lip Embouchure Pain
Author: salzo 
Date:   2010-12-29 14:25

Ken-
I studied with Gigliotti, and I played for many years with his embouchure approach-which worked great for me. But for whatever reason, years later, my upper lip became irrelevant in my embouchure formation-my altissimo became very flat, and I really had no control of my intonation- Everything was great if everything stayed at 440- but it never does, and I couldnt do anything to get my pitch a little higher for this note, or that note.
Double lip "forces" me to keep the upper lip in the equation, and allows me much more flexibility with intonation and tone. And in my personal experience, you want the entire circumfrence of the lip formation to be constantly involved- double lip makes this happen for me- single lip I "forget" to tighten this part of the lip, or that part of the lip.
Someone described their embouchure formation as a "pucker"-the best way I can describe it is that it is like how your mouth is formed when spitting out a big fat lugey(wad of spit).
And incidentally, I think Ken Steins description of embouchure (single and double) in his clarinet book is the best I have seen on paper. Reading his book, Ill bet he was an amazing teacher.
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