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 Re: Musical chairs in orchestras
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2010-07-15 15:30

Karl wrote,
>>I think Lelia meant that the union wouldn't find *the firing* objectionable, not the behavior.
>>

Exactly right. I hope that most unions (of musicians or otherwise) would support firing an employee who showed up for work sloshed. That's why I chose that example: it seemed uncontroversial as a reason for firing someone. I just wondered whether it might be possible for the management to decide later that the employee had used bad judgment, most likely wasn't an alcoholic, had learned the lesson and probably would show up sober in the future if re-hired -- "But we're not going to trust him/her in first chair again right away."

I wondered if a union would then support an audition that resulted in re-hiring the former second chair as first chair and hiring the person who'd been fired for second chair, in effect reversing their positions. I'd assume that such a move might cause the union rep to investigate whether the management had given out the real reason for firing the person in the first place. (Who'd be most likely to say first chair was drunk? The person in the next chair....)

But I admit I'm playing devil's advocate here, coming up with an unlikely scenario. The responses have been most interesting. Thank you.

Lelia
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