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 Ligature discoloration.
Author: Alfred 
Date:   2009-07-04 16:07

So, I use a silver BG France ligature, and I love it. It's fantastic. When I got it, it was shiny, crisp, what have you. Now, it's starting to get copper colored, purple, and blue discolorations all over it, resembling something licked by fire. I can say that I take very good care of it and my clarinet, and I'm very, very confident that that's not the issue. Any ideas on what's causing this discoloration? Finger acid? Is there a way to reverse/undo discoloration?

Thanks.



Post Edited (2009-07-05 03:32)

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: cxgreen48 
Date:   2009-07-04 17:40

The silver is tarnishing most likely because of exposure to rubber. Are you using a hard rubber mouthpiece?



Post Edited (2009-07-04 17:47)

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2009-07-04 18:01

Try using silver polish or a silver polish rag. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2009-07-04 21:33

Then get an Anti-Tarnish Silver Strip for your case. That will help prevent any future tarnish. Replace strip every 6-8 months

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2009-07-04 21:48

Tell me as we are talking about the Silver BG ligature how do you polish the golden one I'm starting to have similar problem. Is it also bad to keep it on the mouthpiece all the time ?

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2009-07-04 21:55

David should you be able to get this strips in shops who sell household appliances such as Villeroy and Boch or some similar store? Buying online is not an option here in Iceland these crises days.

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2009-07-04 21:58

It's possible that a local store may carry them, but they are a bit hard to find. I've seen them at high end jewlery stores, and some hardware stores, but it's hit or miss.

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2009-07-05 02:28

It should not be a problem keeping your ligature on your mouthpiece, helps keep the shape. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Alfred 
Date:   2009-07-05 03:26

Okay, yeah. I use a 5RV Lyre, which I'm replacing in time, actually. But yeah, it's hard rubber. So, that's what's making it tarnish?

Which is better, the polish or the strips? And also, will either reverse the effects?



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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: cxgreen48 
Date:   2009-07-05 13:51

There are other things that can cause tarnishing, but your mouthpiece, made of rubber, is most likely the cause of silver tarnishing on your ligature.

I believe the polish makes the tarnished silver look silver again. The strips will prevent the silver from tarnishing in the future. I wouldn't worry too much about it though, unless you're really bothered by the looks of your ligature.



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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2009-07-05 15:12

Department stores that sell sterling silver tableware (Macy's, Bloomingdale's, etc.) sell the 3M anti-tarnish strips. Ask the cashier in the area of the store where you see the better china and silverware.

Re. leaving the ligature on the mouthpiece: I do leave it on, without a reed (I rinse the reed and store it separately in a reed case), because the screws on the ligature secure the mouthpiece cap and prevent it from twisting around or coming off and scratching up the mouthpiece.

Lelia
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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2009-07-05 17:59

An option to the anti-tarnish strips is the Doctor's Gleam Anti-Tarnish Sachets.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: jeeves 
Date:   2009-07-06 15:47

Sulfur tarnishes silver. I've heard of certain facewashes containing sulfur causing a necklace to tarnish. Anyway, rubber causes silver to tarnish due to vulcanization (where they expose rubber to sulfur for hardness and stuff). It's prolly your mouthpiece.

Jeeves

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 Re: Ligature discoloration.
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2009-07-06 17:01

(Disclaimer - I sell Gleam anti-tarnish supplies)
There are enough suflur compounds and other tarnish promoting agents in the air to tarnish silver over time - especially in our poluted urban environments. Clean it with a quality silver polish and then keep an anti-tarnish agent in your case.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com

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