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Author: Dr_Klarinette
Date: 2009-05-04 09:25
Dear colleagues,
I need a source for the intonation exercise (daily routine) and found out the follwing materials.
1. Advanced Intonation Technique for Clarinets (A=440/442 edition) by John Gibson.
2. Clarinet Fundamentals 3: Intonation by Reiner Wehle
3. Intonation Training for Clarinetists by Larry Guy
Has anyone already used one of these? Which one would you recommand for me? The first by Gibson interests me indeed due to the including 2CDs...but I'm not able to judge.
Much appreciate for your help.
Post Edited (2009-05-04 10:21)
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Author: oliver sudden
Date: 2009-05-04 10:01
Meine Güte!
What actually is advanced intonation technique? (This is an honest question, not a rhetorical one.) A=440 won't be much use to you in Germany... at least, not if you're wanting to play with Germans.
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Author: Dr_Klarinette
Date: 2009-05-04 10:20
Ha ha, mach keine Sorge!
There is the other version for that, in fact A=442 edition.
I've just corrected the text (Um andere Leute daran nicht abzuschrecken).
OK?!
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2009-05-04 12:00
I have the Advanced Intonation Technique for Clarinets (A=440 edition). While the title may or may not be overstated, and while it really isn't anything you can't do on your own, I find it helpful. It is essentially exercises of arpeggios and excerpts with reference tones and recorded excerpts on a CD to help you hear how your horn's intonation varies across its scale.
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Author: aero145
Date: 2009-05-04 12:34
Dr Klarinette; I think A=443 would be better. 442 doesn’t at least do it for me here unfortunately.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-05-04 15:25
Without buying any books, you can use an inexpensive tuner with a speaker, such as the Korg CA30 http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=99 to train your ear by setting an audible tone and playing intervals against it. Start with simple ratios (fourths and fifths), listening for the beats and eliminating them. Then go on to major and minor thirds.
Another good exercise is to get together with a clarinetist friend and work on a unison passage, such as the opening of the Tchaikovsky 5th, until a listener can't tell that it's two people playing. If you can find it, there's a 1958 Boston Symphony recording with Monteux, RCA LP, LSC-2239, where Gino Cioffi and, I think, Manuel Valera have such perfect intonation that for years I didn't know that it was two players.
Ken Shaw
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2009-05-05 01:04
I am the author of Advanced Intonation Technique.
I agree with Ken Shaw that it is quite possible to simply use a tuner, although it is also helpful to use an outside sound source along with a tuner pick-up device so you can visualize the results on the intervals you are playing. To be perfectly in tune with a tuner is great if you are playing by yourself or with a piano tuned normally to the equal tempered scale. But as ensemble players, I believe we need to be aware of Just Intonation where we can achieve pure sounding, beatless intervals, and those do not necessarily correspond to the equal tempered tuner. For example, an interval of a major third must be 14 cents lower than the equal tempered note for the interval to be pure sounding. That is the "advanced" part of the book and I set out to provide a framework for learning it.
As Ken points out, listening is the whole thing....and in the long run, the only thing you need.
John Gibson
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: David Niethamer
Date: 2009-05-05 02:34
I've used both Larry Guy's book and John Gibson's. Both are useful in their own ways. I'd recommend either/both.
David
niethamer@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/index.html
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2009-05-06 02:25
Take a look at Michelle Gingras' "Clarinet Secrets" She proposes that you play against a drone to ingrain the intervals between the notes you play and the drone.
Bob Phillips
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