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 Re: Perfect Pitch Gene and Clarinetist
Author: Ski 
Date:   2007-09-04 18:59

Follow up... So it would seem that the tonal nature of Mandarin (as well as Vietnamese and similar tonally-based languages) would attune people to be able to recognize pitches or pitch "areas"; I using the term "area" here to describe a pitch which isn't pure or steady, but is produced with an inheret pitch bend (pitch inflection) of some kind either leading to a "target" pitch or descending from an "initial" pitch. If you've ever heard a Chinese person demonstrate the four variations of "ma" (as cited in the articles found via Michale's link), you'd know what I mean. I heard these first hand myself many years ago when my (native Chinese) girlfriend at the time tried to teach me some simple words. She spoke Toi San, a Chinese dialect. After I ended up calling her mother a horse in the pronounciation faux pas of the century, I gave up. [grin]

So to the tones and their pitch bends/inflections used to pronounce the different variants of "ma" in Chinese, for one, I would imagine that the "depth" of bend in either direction wouldn't likely exhibit a great degree of variation on average from one speaker to another.

It's unlikely that the pitches used in the pronounciation of Mandarin et al would have direct tuning analogs to the 12 tone/octave scale regardless of the tuning standard; but I can understand on a "feel level" how the tonal nature of these languages would more readily pre-dispose people to be able to associate pitch 'sounds' with pitch names. Makes sense!



Post Edited (2007-09-04 19:01)

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