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 Re: Perfect Pitch Gene and Clarinetist "perfect pitch from tonal timbre"
Author: diz 
Date:   2007-09-04 05:05

Perfect pitch is a blessing and a curse, trust me as I've got it. It's very disconcerting hearing a train horn sound and think ... that G is sharp. Then there's the whole scenario of period instrument performance where the pitch isn't exactly a semitone - very painfulSki wrote:

> In order to perfect pitch has a genetic origin,the 12 tone
> scale should be the only choice for musical scale.
>
> I'd venture a guess that people who exhibit perfect pitch
> ability aren't limited to those musicians acclimated to the
> 12-note per octave scale system.
>
> How in the world genes know what we would choose for the
> musical scale?
>
> I don't think anyone here is saying that genetics determine
> what scales are adopted by a given society/culture.
>
> In any event, I think it would be quite revealing to see a
> similar test to the one linked to above for people who use
> different tuning/scale systems.
>
> [ EDIT & ADDENDUM ]
>
> There are what Westerners would consider as "microtonal scale
> steps" in some traditional styles of Arabic music; but to those
> musicians those notes are not microtonal. They're notes,
> just the like all the other ones. It goes without saying that
> there must be a standard by which those notes are determined to
> be in- or out-of-tune. I'd be hard pressed to think that a
> young musician studying the oud wouldn't be corrected by his
> teacher if he bent a note an 1/8 tone sharp instead of the
> expected 1/4-tone sharp. And with this perspective I would
> offer that there are, for one, Arabic musicians who must have
> perfect pitch regarding those scales.
>
> Even blues singers will only go so far "out" when gliding up to
> a note or singing a "grace note" or other typical blues
> embellishment.
>
> My point is that there are standards of tuning -- and hence,
> note recognition -- that aren't tied to the 12-tone scale; and
> that certain people's ability to hear whether a note is sung in
> or out of tune or to recognize those notes discreetly must
> imply a perfect pitch corollary in all musical cultures.
>

>
> Post Edited (2007-09-02 16:12)

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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