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Author: Olaf
Date: 2000-04-02 12:19
I like to know everything about metal clarinet's
post me!!!!!!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-04-02 14:44
Olaf - "everything" is way too broad. Do you have any specific information you need clarified (after you've perused all the information already here on the BBoard)?.
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Author: Fred
Date: 2000-04-02 19:33
I suppose my curiousity is much the same as Olaf's. Most players are by now fairly familiar with the respected names in today's clarinets, intermediate vs. pro, mouthpiece choices, etc. But I don't know a cadillac from a yugo when it comes to metal clarinets. What are (or were) the respected brands? What about the mouthpiece . . . is it different? What are the weaknesses of metal clarinets . . . intonation? . . . tone? I guess we need a primer course on metal clarinets.
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Author: Willie
Date: 2000-04-02 20:34
Dozens of companies (in the U.S. alone) produced these by the thousands up to and during WW2, then quickly died to a trickle on to the early 60s. Though very rugged and almost kid proof, most manufacturers didn,t spend a whole lot of time and money correcting tuning and tone problems as there was a huge demand for student clarinets and quick money to be made. Because of this, MOST were real clunkers, but there were some good ones made. Of the three I have, my Elkhart is best. Sounds pretty good and plays in tune except for the altissimo which has to be lipped up a bit. This just takes a little practice and has been good ear training for me as I usually keep my tuner on the stand to verify my efforts.
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Author: Doc
Date: 2000-04-03 04:11
the metal clarinet I love mine to pieces as much as it's annoying in the Tope register as Willie had previously noted. These were student instrument FOR THE MOST PART... Selmer did put out some multi-piece metals, I think these are pretty darn pricey as I have seen them approaching $300+ on ebay. What else...? Oh yeah!!! The man himself, Lester Young, used to play on a metal King. He played on it until it had been stolen and never played clarinet again... At least that's the story... I've also heard some stories of a symphonic clarinetist who was at ends with a conductor about using a selmer metal for a performance.
Me, I use an all silver American Knight. This horn as said is indestructable as is the case The key work is not what you get with the more modern instruments, I like my instruments with a lot of play and height on the keys (call me crazy) and this horn offers just that. The set up is a Runyon Custom Jazz (since I'll never be the symphonic player as I am a jazzer , main inst. tenor sax) with a rico 2.5 (for now) With this set up, the first chair clarinetist has told me many times, "she wishes she could sound like me" The sound has a bit more bite it seems. You'll hear many say that the bores of the wooden and the metal are the same, but I am not quite sure, cause my clarinet stand which holds a modern (and even a vintage pan am) fine while my Metal just wobbles on it... I wouldn't use this instrument or set up in a symphonic situation. I don't think I would blend well enough. I do know (by comments from others) that this outfit wails. It's also interesting to tell people "nope not a soprano... clarinet" Sorry for making this excessive. I just like sharing what I know.
Later,
Dave
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Author: Todd H.
Date: 2000-04-04 01:44
That is really good info, Doc! It's gotta be a gas blowing that horn.
For what may be new Metallklarinetten check out the web page for hans-zinner.de the maker of mouthpieces.
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Author: Willie
Date: 2000-04-04 02:47
I might add too, Doc, that at a jazz concert a while back, the clarinetist used a silver clarinet fitted with a crystal mp. Thats about all I know about his set up other than it sounded fabulous. I will say that I can (with my fat fingers) run the scales easier on my Elkhart that my Buffet.
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Author: mickey
Date: 2000-04-04 03:13
I have a friend who owns a Selmer metal "A" clarinet.. and it sounds great.. as for myself, I have a Selmer metal Clarinet Mouthpiece.. "HS" opened up to play better for me. I use it for fun. it looks really strange on a regular clarinet... people almost faint when they see it. A great tone
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Author: beejay
Date: 2000-04-04 20:17
One of my heros, George Lewis, got that beautiful sound out of a metal clarinet, although I think he switched later to a gold-plated Albert. Perhaps others would know in more detail.
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Author: Scott
Date: 2000-04-09 04:48
I've played a few of them...they were ok...However, a pal of mine owns a King metal that assembles lika regular clarinet. Man...does it sound great! I want one...I was intrigued to read about Lester Young using one...
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