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 Re: Sharp on high notes... flat on low F and low E
Author: Markus Wenninger 
Date:   2004-07-18 16:51

I was referring to the change in the grounding concept of how an instrument is devised, up to let´s say 1945 (speaking for the Western World - whole Asia never fell for this illsuion of rationally equal distances between notes or between two instruments) playing an "a" had to be the same throughout the whole orchestra, timbre being as sort of colouring out the precise lines of what was considered to be "harmonically correct". The winds always were sort of love-hate friends, being capable of very distinct and unmistakable voices but for the price of instabile intonation (it doesn´t matter whether G.Gould or Mr xyz hit the key, if tuned correctly, the "a" sounds exactly the same; which doesn´t negate the fact that a piece is indefinitely more complex than just hitting keys at the time proper...but every wind-performer knows how categorically relevant it is who blows the note on the particular horn - and energy in extremis has gone into nivellating this disturbing instability that every horn is different as every player is). The natural overtone-series is not a static series, as accoustics might suggest (look at how the internal relations of a multiphonic on the clarinet,e.g., change with air/roomtemperature, embrochure, diaphragm pressure et al, the whole concept of timbre trills relies on this). Nowadays music, instead of trying to cut off all instabilities in favor of a homogenous sound, developed a way of using those infintely differentiated voices of the instruments to realize pieces that change categorically with the performers and performances (not only gradually so, as it was always the case). This is emphatically the case with the string- and the windinstruments, those being freed from the shackles of absolute (between instruments and instrumental categories) and relative (in repsect to the registers internally to an instrument) just intonation ("just" just being another term for "the same") put forward the question of what it means to intonate at a completely new and higher level.
Markus
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-16 23:16 
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larryb 2004-07-17 01:25 
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ron b 2004-07-17 01:57 
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davor 2004-07-17 08:38 
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idahofats 2004-07-17 13:10 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-17 13:37 
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idahofats 2004-07-17 14:56 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-17 14:50 
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Avie 2004-07-17 15:00 
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William 2004-07-17 17:31 
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Wes 2004-07-17 19:50 
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GBK 2004-07-17 20:31 
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Avie 2004-07-18 13:43 
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Markus Wenninger 2004-07-18 13:50 
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Mark Charette 2004-07-18 14:19 
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larryb 2004-07-18 14:51 
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William 2004-07-18 15:12 
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saxlite 2004-07-19 04:15 
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Markus Wenninger 2004-07-18 16:51 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-18 18:51 
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hans 2004-07-18 19:43 
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idahofats 2004-07-19 14:53 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-18 23:14 
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larryb 2004-07-18 23:20 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-18 23:26 
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Gordon (NZ) 2004-07-19 05:00 
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Mark Charette 2004-07-19 10:39 
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Gordon (NZ) 2004-07-19 11:04 
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Mark Charette 2004-07-19 11:05 
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saxlite 2004-07-19 13:59 
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sbbishop 2004-07-19 16:13 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-19 19:36 
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larryb 2004-07-19 19:50 
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Todd W. 2004-07-19 20:10 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-19 20:49 
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Vic 2004-07-19 21:11 
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Avie 2004-07-19 21:24 
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Gordon (NZ) 2004-07-19 22:11 
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Mark Charette 2004-07-19 22:51 
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larryb 2004-07-19 23:04 
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saxlite 2004-07-20 00:10 
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Markus Wenninger 2004-07-20 06:54 
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Gordon (NZ) 2004-07-20 09:57 
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Mark Charette 2004-07-20 10:41 
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jbutler 2004-07-20 11:51 
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Avie 2004-07-20 12:22 
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larryb 2004-07-20 14:08 
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psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as 2004-07-20 16:02 
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Markus Wenninger 2004-07-20 17:26 


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