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question on 2 scores

Author: Markus Wenninger
Date: 2004-03-20 16:48

Since the BBBoard is the only reliable place to ask, let me do so concerning a score for saxophone:has anybody the fingerings necessary for G. Aperghis´ "Alter Ego" for ts solo? PLease help, since the ww-fingering chart doesn´t help in the altissimo much with the quartertones, and I still haven´t found the appropriate fingerings for the demanded multiphonics.
And another one: Great great great Isang Yun wrote this great great great composition "Piri", which is for oboe originally - I have an astonishing recording by E.Brunner of it, on clarinet - does anyone know where to get that score, for cl I mean? Did I mention that this Brunner CD is a great one?

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Re: question on 2 scores

Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-03-20 20:51

Markus,

Are you sure there was a published clarinet transcription of Piri? While the (English) translation in the Camerata recording's liner notes is ambiguous, I interpret "It was originally composed for oboe, with however, Brunner giving the first performance on clarinet." to mean that Brunner not only gave the first performance on clarinet, he gave the first performance on any instrument. Perhaps he read straight from the oboe score or made his own transcription. The oboe version (as you probably know) was published by Bote & Bock and seems to be readily and inexpensively available ($11 US at sheetmusicplus.com or 7.50 Pounds Sterling from Boosey & Hawkes at www.boosey.com). At that price at least it shouldn't bankrupt you to pick up a copy and check it against the recording. BTW, which recording do you have, the Col Legno with "Recontre" and the Clarinet Quintet, et al, or the Camerata with the Clarinet Concerto and "Riul." The timings of "Piri" are sufficiently different that I think they must be two different performances. (I haven't listened to them back-to-back to do a comparison but I probably couldn't tell, in any case.)

I can't help you with "Alter Ego." I'm sure it's way beyond my abilities (as is "Piri" for that matter). Isn't one of the joys of new music finding your own fingerings? [grin]

Best regards,
jnk

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Re: question on 2 scores

Author: Markus Wenninger
Date: 2004-03-21 14:11

Yes, JNK, indeed, this fuzzing one´s own way through the forest and not following those highways laid out by tradition is indisbutably a most enjoyable dimension of New Music. Your answer is, all the more, of such a kind which I chersih withing the realms of the contemporary - getting advice from older pathfinders, going something like "...oh perhaps you could hack your way through here...tried it last time and it went o.k....". Sometimes I am just plagued by not being able to see simple solutions lying near at hand - I never though E. Brunner premiered it at all, just on the clarinet methinks (the original German liner text suggessts this at least. It is the CD "Dal Niente", after Lachenmann´s incredible copmosition for cl solo, and "Piri" is the first piece on this recording; it´s an "ECM New Series" edition, absolutely wonderfully recorded and mastered - one of those rare publikations where the company doesn´t think it to over the top to meet standards which are unquestioned for some Chopin´s xth recording et al! Oh "Riul" is one of my absolute absolute favorites for the cl, stunning simply, expertly displaying the technique of today together with a deep spiritual conception, something which I long for strongly. Like Rilke has it, the beautiful is just terrible´s beginning, which holds true for all New Music, in itself this is beatuiful again. O.K., first thing next week is that I will get myself a copy of the obe score of "Piri" (I so easily can imagine Brunner Cheshire-Cat-like grinning and saying "fine,I play it right of the page, oboe or not!", You might be so right...). This timing in Yun´s compositions is due to a classical Asian stratum in his oevre, the pulses of this continent´s music is much more flexible, coming and going from the historical beginnings already rather than beating steadily however complex. But I can ony argue this on the grounds of music for shakuhachi definitely.
Thank You in any way for Your advice,
Markus

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Re: question on 2 scores

Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-03-21 16:59

Markus,

I had forgotten that "Piri" was also on "Dal Niente" - imagine three recordings of the piece available, all by the same clarinetist! You should try comparing the English notes to the German. While this may be an error due to my limited German, the German notes seem to indicate that Brunner did arrange the work for clarinet. This is not mentioned in the English notes. In case you have not seen the Camerata notes, they also say that "The Piri is a traditional Korean instrument similar in many aspects to the oboe and also corresponds to the Japanese 'Hichiriki.'"

I find Yun's music remarkable, particularly the symphonies I have heard.

Best regards,
jnk

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