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Author: Eric G.
Date: 2003-01-09 04:05
Hi,
I've not ever seen a HP Bb clarinet in person. Is there an noticable size difference (overall length) versus a "typical" Bb?
I just purchased an old Buffet clarinet (I should receive it within the next week or two). From the picture, it was shorter than the Bb clarinet placed next to it. The barrel appeared "regular" size though, versus a short/stout barrel typical of a C clarinet. The body of the Henri Farny C clarinet I own is just shorter than my R13.
Any ideas? I've either purchased a C clarinet with a Bb barrel, or a HP Bb that I really won't be able to use...Feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks-
Eric
Rochester, NY
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-01-09 04:36
Hi, Eric
In your situation probably the only way you're going to know for sure is when you play it :|
My plastic (Albert system) C clarinet, L.P., is proportionally(all over) smaller than a Bb. It's about 1 1/2" or so shorter. I think a H.P. horn wouldn't be quite that much, maybe a quarter to half an inch. I have an old plastic Conn (H.P. Albert system) that's very hard to tell just by looking(the serial number includes an "H" - clue #1).
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2003-01-09 15:27
HP B or HP Bb clarinet is shorter than Bb clarinet, but it's longer than "C" clarinet.
Some Yamaha's digital pianos or MIDI sequencers allow you to match the pitch to your HP B clarinet.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2003-01-09 21:50
ron,
Aren't some of the bore sizes different too, between similarly-pitched instruments? My understanding is that one can't always tell only by the length of a horn what pitch it'll play. And I always forget whether bigger bore means higher or lower pitch, given the same length...LOL!
Katrina
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-01-10 00:16
Hi, Katrina
Bigger bore, higher pitch (given same length). You're absolutely correct, therefore, that you can't always tell its pitch by measuring the length of the instrument. It seems to me, all too often, I retain a lot of dumb stuff and not enough of the important things. Life is just complicated I guess... somethimes :|
How's that C horn of yours these days?
- ron b -
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Author: Kat
Date: 2003-01-10 01:57
Haven't played it in months, I'm afraid, ron...
Not enough time and no opportunities for Greek music at this point in time...
And I've not had enough opportunities for the Selmer FB I picked up last summer either...
Oh, well...that's the way of things, eh?
Eric,
As ron says, just wait till it comes and honk away with a tuner in front of ya! Best of luck with the old horn!
xoxo,
Katrina
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Author: Eric G.
Date: 2003-01-10 02:06
Hi Folks,
Thanks for your input... I'll just have to wait and see/play it when it arrives. (and then put the tuner to it and see where it falls) It is very interesting that overall length of a horn is not always directly proportional to tuning/pitch. The seller said each section of the horn is marked Buffet France, which I guess is a "good thing"...
If it is a HP Bb (though it was listed on E-bay as a HP B??? Has anyone ever heard of one?), I am not sure what I will do with it... Use of a really short barrel would bring some pitch up, but would probably mess up the overall tuning/balance of the horn, right? Any ideas on this one?
As for me, I've been playing for some time now... I've had my R13 Bb for 29 years. Its a great horn. I play in a number of groups around the Rochester area.
Within the past few years, I've gotten a LeBlanc L200A, R13 Eb, the Henri Farny C (Albert System) and most recently a Cavalier Silver Plate Clarinet that I recently had overhauled.
Anyway, thanks again for your replies.
Eric
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Author: Kat
Date: 2003-01-10 22:37
Well, Eric, "HP B" could refer to the German way of spelling notes... A lot of older clarinets use "B" for "Bb."
And would you be interested in letting the R13 Eb go for ohhhh say $50? LOL!!!
I really want an eefer but have NO funds right now!
Katrina
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2003-01-11 06:25
All is not lost if you have a high pitch instrument. Rahsaan Roland Kirk played an instrument that included three sax like instruments, one of which was high pitch. If you learn to play two clarinets simultaneously, you can imitate that sound.
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