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Author: Amanda
Date: 2003-01-08 00:39
I'm a freshman in college and I began the first semester with the Rose studies. I was never challenged in high school - the only studies I was given were the Rubank blue books. Well after giving me the Rose studies, my teacher told me that it was a high school book and I should be done of this kind of stuff by now. I feel bad so I was wondering if most of you did the Rose studies in high school or earlier in your careers. Some of them are easy but some are more difficult, and I was wondering if I really am studying a high school level book.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-01-08 00:50
Amanda wrote:
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> I feel bad so I was wondering if most of you did
> the Rose studies in high school or earlier in your careers.
> Some of them are easy but some are more difficult, and I was
> wondering if I really am studying a high school level
> book.
My son was started on those by his teacher in 8th grade; he's now a senior at a major conservatory and is still working on them ...
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Author: Larry Liberson
Date: 2003-01-08 00:54
I did the Rose 40 and 32 in high school.
I did the Rose 40 and 32 in college.
I've been out of college since 1974.
I'm still doing the Rose 40 and 32.
It never ends...really.
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Author: Burt
Date: 2003-01-08 02:17
The Rose etudes are stressed at University of North Texas. There's a book of (easy) piano accompaniment, which makes the etudes fun to play and even worth performing. (No, I don't know where to get it, but I understand it comes from Japan.)
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2003-01-08 02:34
Perhaps your teacher simply, and possibly correctly, wishes you had been given the Rose Etudes to begin working on while you were in high school.
Although there are many other, better and worse, etudes out there to work on and be introduced to, the Rose Etudes seem to maintain their place in the repertoire.
I have students in high school working on the Rose Etudes; I have college age students working on them; I have adults -- pro and am -- working on some of them. I occasionally pull them out and work on them to make sure I can demonstrate areas to the students.
As for them being a "high school level" book, yes and no. It really depends on the student, and almost as important, how the teacher is teaching them and using them. I'm not sure you would be "done" with them if you had started them in high school.
your level is your level...
Tom Piercy
thomaspiercy.com
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Author: Amanda Rose
Date: 2003-01-08 03:58
I'm a freshman and DID do the Rose in HS and am doing them AGAIN. Yes, it's helpful to have studied them, but in college, you really dig in and do everything a lot more in depth. They're totally worth it. :o)
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Author: James
Date: 2003-01-08 04:23
I remember doing etudes from rose back in 7th grade. I don't think it really counts. I really don't think anyone grows or becomes to good for rose etudes. It's like saying the mozart concerto is a high school piece. Seriously you could go through the rose stuff several times and always find something new. Some new creative ideas or to put in effect new things you learned from you teacher and apply them to more than just scales ect.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-01-08 04:25
Hi, Amanda :]
I've met a lot of clarinet players in my time both pro and not-so-pro. Maybe it's just me, but as 'chance' would have it I never met even one who was done with Rose' Etudes... or any other etudes for that matter. As far as I know they're all, the ones still able to, still doin' 'em. And, the funny thing about it, I guess, is... get this -- none of us feels bad about it.
:)
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Author: d dow
Date: 2003-01-08 12:25
The etudes and studies are -and have become the hallmark of truly good study habits.
They teach a load of interpretive skills, yet there is a danger of over stressing them over working on actual interpetation of concert pieces.
I tend to look at them as a valuable technical development, especially the studies books vol 1 and vol. 2. The 32 Etudes are particulary difficult toward the end of the book!
Frankly after years of teaching and playing them I have become a little tired of them as a clarinetist so I look toward Stark studies and Kroepsch as a backgrounder for my own personal practice.
Regards,
DD
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2003-01-08 13:44
Daniel Bonade, who trained most of the top players in the 1940s and 50s, used the Rose studies as the main source of both musical and technical training for his students. You never outgrow them, and even the "easy" ones present endless oppotunities for practice.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: William
Date: 2003-01-08 14:26
Rose, as a college freshman (Bonade style legato and stacatto excersises with some) It was a year of finding out that I wasn't as good as I thought I was.
(I'm still "finding that out", occassionally, with Mr. Rose)
Enjoy (forever)
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Author: slocum
Date: 2003-01-09 19:01
I didn't start Rose until I got to college either. Don't feel bad! The most advanced book I used in high school was Klose, and we didn't do much of the hard stuff in there. Maybe because my teachers throughout high school didn't really play clarinet as their main instrument.
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