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 metal rings on barrel
Author: wjk 
Date:   2003-01-01 20:02

1.While disassembling my mouthpiece from the barrel, the metal ring at the bottom of the barrel came off. I replaced it, and it seems snug. Should it be glued into place, and if so, with what?
2. I find that with my clarinet, exchanging barrels makes a large difference in ease of blowing and tone. Is this normal? (the barrels I'm interchanging are essentially the same.)
Thanks and Happy New Year!

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 RE: metal rings on barrel
Author: Peter 
Date:   2003-01-01 20:27

A ring slipping off like that in a wooden instrument is often a sign that the wood is dry and should be oiled.

Although oiling has been a very controversial issue here in the past, I would place a drop of bore oil on the inside of any tennon joint and see if the instrument soaks it up, and how long it takes to do so. This will be indicative of the condition.

Some of these rings have had some sort of paper installed under them, when the tennon was cut slightly too small in manufacturing and they have used a "filler" under it to keep it snug, or, in one case I know of, a tech who did not believe in oiling used "filler" under the tennon rings to keep them snug and, relatively, in place.

If it soaks it up relatively quickly (minutes/hours?) or if it doesn't soak it up at all, etc.

If it's a plastic clarinet: I have used crazy glue, as well as "hot glue gun" glue (like some techs use on pads) to put them back on in the past, but perhaps some of the other inmates may have better answers to that one.

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 RE: metal rings on barrel
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-01-01 21:47

Peter's analysis is V G, a drop of bore oil may cause the ring to hold. If not, I usually cut a strip of news-print and "seat" the ring on it, it works. Don

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 RE: metal rings on barrel
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2003-01-01 21:48

If the barrel is not dry and not taking oil you should take it to a repairer and have the ring shrunk. In addition to protecting the edges of the barrel they are also there to stop cracks. This is more effective than glueing or wedging. If you find an identical or similar barrel that plays better then use it.

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 RE: metal rings on barrel
Author: Kim 
Date:   2003-01-02 14:23

You shouldn't replace the barrel ring yourself. Take it to a mechanic immediately. When exchanging barrels/mouthpieces, the tone will change significantly. However, it is up to you on which tone you want to playing with.

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 RE: metal rings on barrel
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2003-01-05 04:11

A change to a low humidity environment can easily make rings loose, irrespective of oiling.

It is important that the ring is fitted tightly, whatever the "filler". I, like many repairers, use solid shellac, melted onto a warm ring before the ring is pressed on.

The function of a ring is to stop the pressure from the tenon cork from splitting the tenon socket. Tenon sockets are very thin, hence very weak. If there is not SOLID support between a loosely fitting ring and the timber the timber easily splits. Jamming the ring with paper does not necessarily provide solid support.

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