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 Ego-typical or talent?
Author: RA 
Date:   2002-03-01 02:12

Ego typical or talent? I am a student of four years whom studied with Lisa Molinaro for three and one half years, and am now playing seven year pieces while being self taught. So, is it ego-typical of me to try and play harder pieces with my ambitions of having hopes and aspiriations to play in a symphony/orchestra one day??? Thanks in advance for answering this question.

Rachel Ann

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: RonD 
Date:   2002-03-01 03:16

Only you can answer that question, but the best way to improve your chances is to continualy challenge yourself.

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: David Pegel 
Date:   2002-03-01 03:27

If you can do that, more power to ya. I'd call that talent over ego any day.

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: Jim E. 
Date:   2002-03-01 03:48

Performers of all types walk a fine line between self-confidence and ego. It is high art indeed to be confident in one's self and one's abilities without giving in to the temptation of aragance.

Best to you in your studies!

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: susannah 
Date:   2002-03-01 04:14

well, I think that no matter how talented you are you're not going to make it into a big symphony orchestra without a good teacher.

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: jez 
Date:   2002-03-01 12:35

Keep it up RA!
If you were to ask EVERY clarinet player in in EVERY orchestra in the world, I don't think you'd find one who didn't have the same ambitions/hopes/aspirations when they were young. If you didn't have that sort of single-mindedness, you wouldn't be able to keep up all the hard work you need to achieve your ambition. You also need a degree of self-confidence, almost arrogance, to compete with maybe hundreds of others and stand a chance of being successful.
I agree with susannah, though, that you need a good teacher to make the necessary progress.
Good Luck
jez

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: Sandra F. H. 
Date:   2002-03-01 14:22

When you think that your ego needs checking, just practice.

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: RA 
Date:   2002-03-02 02:57

Thank you so much everyone for responding. There was a time when I lost a passion for my playing, yet I think that all musicians reach a point that where they have tried so hard to reach that perfection that they simply lost interest. Besides playing Bb Clarinet, I also play the mediveal soprano recorder and picked that up at the age of seven with three years of lessons as well. the #3? a sign? maybe. With playing two wind instruments with two very different embochures, I begin to wonder sometimes about my ability and talent. Sometimes, I let my ego get to the best of me and that is when I notice the most mistakes, so I just try to put that aside and start anew. However, sometimes, that does not happen. Do I think I have the ability to play in an orchestra or symphony? Yes. Do I think that I am capable of competing with hundreds of other professionals and some ametuers with I am sure of far more talent that I? Maybe, but I guess that what I really have to do is just put my foot in the door somewhere. Maybe just to teach beginner clarinet students between the ages of nine and fifteen. I believe, that as a clarinet student, and being exposed to Benny Goodman whose music, I find is absolutely fabulous in his very expressive playing of the great jazz era, that in my pieces, when I try to feel them, they do not turn out the way that I want them to. But, isn't that what life is about? Great adventures and discovering with nature? Playing some. Expressing yourself in ways that no one thought possible? Well, thanks once again and I appreciate the enocouragement. Does anyone know of professional teachers with whom I could study? Our local philharmonic conductor, Douglas Ghram is also a clarinet players but I am not so sure if he is still teaching lessons. Thank you once again. Rachel Ann

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2002-03-02 05:05

If you intend to be a top professional player, you should have complete trust in your teacher. If you don't trust your teacher, get another one you *can* trust. Do have a frank up-front discussion on what you have as a goal and whether that teacher can help ensure that you get there. On the other hand, if you want to develop a distinctive individual style all your own, you may not want a teacher. However, if you succeed in developing such a style, there might be no professional orchestra on Earth that would want to hire you as a regular player.

Regards,
John

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: James 
Date:   2002-03-02 14:16

Hi,

As an aspiring clarinetist I have to say that how you are talking doesn't seem completely right. "I am a student of four years whom studied with Lisa Molinaro for three and one half years, and am now playing seven year pieces" Last time I checked Rose Studies weren't listed by how many years you have been playing. Same with great solo's like the Mozart Clarinet Concerto. How many years of expierence do I need to play that? I played mozart in seventh grade for a solo and ensemble contest. The only thing I did was get a lot of bad habbit's in playing it. Yes it was great of me to aspire to do harder pieces, but I know my musicial maturity at the time was not good enough, heck I'm a junior now and playing that piece with the approval of my teacher and have one a few concerto competetions playing and I still don't feel ready enough to play it. I don't think things are ranked by how many years you got.

As my teacher told me who might I ad is quite expeierenced and has subbed with the CSO many times. You need to learn the tools first. Then you use those tools to make music. But to go out and start putting things together without the proper tools (intonation, tunning, tone, rymthmic accuracy) will get you nowhere. Anyhow good luck and consider what I have said.

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 RE: Ego-typical or talent?
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2002-03-03 10:13

Well said!

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