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 Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Aussie Nick 
Date:   2002-02-13 11:54

I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with this work? What do you think of it? Alot of people don't seem to like it but my chamber group and I love it. The question I have is, the piano music seems to have more dynamics marked in than the rest of us. Are the performers expected to create dynamics how they wish, or is it purposely marked with few dynamics to keep it straight and simple. Any advice would be appreciated as I know these situations pop up in other music as well with a lack of dynamics.

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: LynnB 
Date:   2002-02-13 21:01

I'm playing that now and LOVE it. I've never looked at the piano part in relation to the amount of dynamic markings the violin and I have. I'll have to check it next time I see the pianist. In our case, we take liberties on what we think the composer intended, the feel of the music, etc and take it the phrasing and dynamics from there. Sorry this probably wasn't much help to you. Maybe there are Milhaud scholars out there who might know.

Have you played the Milhaud clarinet and piano piece? (Can't remember the name but we just started it. It's as fun as the trio)

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2002-02-13 21:49

I love the piece. Fun to play and fun for the audience. I don't know about the dynamic markings, it has been a couple of years since I have played it. Does anyone know of other works for this instrumental combination other than L'histoire or the Bruch?

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: diz 
Date:   2002-02-13 22:26

katfish ... try doing a search in www.google.com with the words:

clarinet, violin and piano

you might get some help - there's a few listings of works

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: GBK 
Date:   2002-02-13 22:33

katfish...

http://www.sneezy.org/Databases/Composers/Performers/000403.html

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: LynnB 
Date:   2002-02-13 23:19

The Khachaturian is a blast, it's our favorite. There's also the Bartok Contrasts (very tough).

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Iván 
Date:   2002-02-13 23:26

I was play this, but with flute, in the violin part. The piano was play the dinamics with the flute and clarinet. This suite is wonderful, in the three parts.

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2002-02-14 01:57

GBK; Wow, Thanks. This should keep us busy.

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-02-14 02:40

many of those listed were commissions by the Verdehr Trio (Elsa Ludewig-Verdehr, clarinet, Walter Verdehr - violin, Silvia Roederer - piano). Elsa and Walter are great people to talk to - I seem to keep meeting them at different airports!

http://www.verdehr.com

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2002-02-14 17:27

From various record album notes, I remember that the music was written for a film, "Le Vouageur sans Baggage" (the traveler without luggage -- ii.e., someone traveling light). The film was not a hit, and Milhaud recycled the music into the trio.

The last movement in the published edition ends quietly. I think it was on the Klarinet board that someone said they had spoken with Reginald Kell, who had recorded the trio and repeated the short first movement at the end, and Kell said he did this with Milhaud's approval. This gains credibility since both Kell and Milhaud were at the Aspen Music Festival in the 1950s.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: LynnB 
Date:   2002-02-14 20:33

Mark,
The works that were commissioned by the Verdehr trio, do you know if those transcriptions are available for purchase?
LynnB

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 RE: Milhaud Trio for Clarinet Violin and Piano
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-02-15 01:12

They're not transcriptions (since they were composed for the trio) and most are available. If you can't find the publisher you can contact the Verdehr Trio directly or Elsa at her Michigan State University address.

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