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Author: HAT
Date: 2002-01-27 01:17
The bidding seems way too high for a mouthpiece marked "steel ebonite." Seems to me the real valuable Cheds are older that that marking. I hope one of the mouthpiece experts that stop here (greg smith) will advise me.
In any case, it's a hell of a lot to pay for a mouthpiece without even playing it.
David Hattner, NYC
www.northbranchrecords.com
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Author: Gregory Smith
Date: 2002-01-27 04:00
I have to say that - pardon the expression - the stupidity of buying a piece like this "as is" (not returnable) if one is a player and not simply a speculator looking to make money if the piece appreciates down the road is, well......stupifying.
Gregory Smith
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Author: Ed
Date: 2002-01-27 10:38
I agree with the postings from David and Greg above. I do not understand buying one of these vintage mouthpieces on speculation. But, I do know players who feel (rightly so or not) that a vintage mouthpiece is better than anything available today. I have had some players tell me that if they don't like it, they can always resell it later on and get their money back. I think that unfortunately, some of the ebay frenzy bidding has caused the price of these old Kaspars and Cheds to go through the roof. I remember a year or two ago, a Henry Chedeville went for about $1600. Whether you feel it is worth it or not, I guess is up to you. A lot of the old ones can be hit or miss. I have played some good and some really lousy ones. There are a lot of makers out there today who are making great stuff, in many cases better than an average quality vintage piece. Some fans of old mouthpieces would strongly disagree.
Sometimes, part of this is that people want what they can't get anymore. So here is my suggestion to Greg Smith for the retirement plan- start the rumor that they are not being made anymore. Then after a little break, start slipping them out into the market at wildly inflated auction prices! ;-)
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2002-01-27 13:32
I agree it is nothing short of absolute insanity to pay such a price for a mouthpiece that you haven't gotten to play. I own a couple of Kaspars that are fabulous mouthpieces, but my Greg Smith grenadilla wood mouthpiece, for which I paid a modest $200.00, is the one that is my main equipment.
Perhaps the person wants the Chedeville for the reason mentioned above--they aren't made anymore and so they think the value will increase over time. I can't imagine that--but who knows?
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Author: HAT
Date: 2002-01-27 14:13
It just occurred to me that this is a C. Chedville and not an 'H.' I also notice the bidding remains the same as yesterday. I suspect there might be some shadow bidding going on.
I actually know people who have paid upwards of $1,000 for an H. Ched (not that I don't think they are crazy). I don't know anyone who would pay anywhere near that for a Ch. especially one that is untried.
Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
David Hattner, NYC
www.northbranchrecords.com
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2002-02-01 06:11
That is one of the "coveted" vintage of Chedevilles. That said, no mouthpiece is worth that kind of money, in my opinion.
Mr. Giglotti once told me that someone offered him $1,500 for his Chedeville back in the 60's or so, when a new Mustang cost about that much. I think I'd take the Mustang!
Chris
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