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 Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: diz 
Date:   2002-01-21 23:48

There seems to be a few of "you" that use a series of (very effective) symbols to indicate fingering - most of the time I can figure out what is meant. I notice that GBK uses them to great effect, for example. Is there a "standard" that is used (based on QWERTY of course) and if so, where do I find an explanation? And, if there isn't a "standard" can someone please "write one" and post it? Thanks

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: GBK 
Date:   2002-01-22 02:24

diz...There are many ways to "show" the fingerings on clarinet. Some systems are probably a little easier to read than others.

I like using T for thumb and R for register key, and a series of x's for closed holes, or o's for open holes. Also, I designate other keys by their lower register name.

Therefore G#3 would be: T x x x / x x x G#

and Eb5 would be TR x x x / x x x G#

Tim Reichard's fingering chart (which I've contributed many alternate clarinet fingerings to) uses a variation on this system with the numbers 1 2 3 for the left hand, and 4 5 6 for the right hand. He also designates other keys with their lower register name.

http://www.wfg.sneezy.org/

The nice aspect of Tim's chart is the colored in chart along side of the numerical designation. I also like his trill chart, where the trilled fingers are in red.

BEWARE , his clarinet chart does still have a few mistakes. I am letting him know of these errors as I find them. I'm sure he can use some others to help as well.

However, it is probably still the most comprehensive one on the web...GBK

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: diz 
Date:   2002-01-22 03:47

GBK - as always, thanks - I find the "woodwind fingering system" a fascinating concept!

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: GBK 
Date:   2002-01-22 05:02

After 40 years, I'm still trying to figure it out...GBK

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: Meri 
Date:   2002-01-22 23:59

Here's some of my fingering shortcuts:

alt. = take the alternate chalumeau B or clarion F#
1/4 = for the chalumeau Eb or clarion Bb, use the right index/left index fingering
RH down = put/leave the right hand down in the passage
L/R = take the low E, F, F# (clarion B, C, C#) with the left or right hand
SK3=use the trill fingering for the third-line Bb
+/- (the finger number and/or key, eg: + 6, Ab/Eb--using Pino's method of finger numbering)=add /subtract the fingers from the previous note. Used only with the altissimo fingerings
G#--take the high D with the G# key

But, whatever works, right?

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: David Pegel 
Date:   2002-01-23 02:08

I tend to just use words.

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 RE: Clarinet Petroglyphs
Author: Timothy Reichard 
Date:   2002-01-25 02:55

I considered several ways of typing fingerings when I started the Woodwind Fingering Guide with text-only fingerings. I chose to use numbers instead of x's and o's so that I could specify not only which holes to cover or which keys to press, but also which finger should do the covering or pressing. 1 is index finger, 2 is middle finger, and 3 is ring finger. For 99% of fingerings, it's clear which finger corresponds to which hole, but occasionally it's more useful to use the "wrong" finger for a fingering. For example, Don Yungkurth told me about an F#4-G#4 fingering that uses the LH middle finger on the index finger hole: G# 2 - - | - - - (trill the side G#). So numbers give a little more flexibility with some nonstandard fingerings.

Of course, my notation is just one of many systems, and it has its disadvantages. I picked "0" to mean "press the key ring, but leave the hole uncovered," whereas "0" more often means "don't cover this hole" or "don't press this key," for which I use a hyphen "-". Several visitors to my site have mentioned that they don't like hyphens, but I think it makes the text fingerings easy to read, though perhaps only after one figures out what the hyphen means.

Perhaps the greatest thing about x's and o's is that you don't have to explain what the symbols mean.

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